Gryzemuis on 20/6/2020 at 15:27
Quote Posted by nbohr1more
It think Gryzemuis is the most correct here.
Niels agrees with me ?
I take back everything I've said this month. I was obviously wrong. My apologies.
Nicker on 20/6/2020 at 19:28
Reading that article it does seem that the author is ignoring the diagnosis he helped to write, especially the malignant and criminal symptoms, which Trump exhibits in spades. Frances reframes Trump's behaviour to fit his editorial stance, and supports that with an emotional appeal not to lump the mentally ill in with the deliberate and calculated actions of Trump. It's pretty sloppy.
While intellectual impairment is a feature of some mental illnesses it is not a prerequisite for all of them. The malignant narcissists can still calculate very adeptly but they do so through damaged emotional and social filters. But what choice to behave otherwise do they truly have? (I don't know, myself, but I suspect it is very little to none.) To what degree they can control or alter their behaviour seems like the more important diagnostic question.
The legal defense of diminished responsibility does not excuse the crime it asks what sort of sanction is appropriate.
To me the real perpetrators of the Trump crime spree are his enablers, especially the GOP, who saw a deeply damaged and dangerous man and thought, yes, we can make him work for us. Rather than divert him to a place where he could do no harm, they promoted him to an environment guaranteed to amplify and exacerbate his symptoms. Trump is a crack addict in an all-you-can-snort cocaine warehouse. You cannot separate his individual responsibility from those who use him.
Sulphur on 20/6/2020 at 19:38
I will tangentially note that while I have lowenz on ignore, it doesn't stop me from seeing his posts when I'm not logged in, and his annoyance boner for me is adorable while he still completely misunderstands what I actually raked him over. Feel free to disregard that when he brings it up, dema; there's no signal there.
lowenz on 20/6/2020 at 19:41
Quote Posted by Sulphur
I will tangentially note that while I have lowenz on ignore, it doesn't stop me from seeing his posts when I'm not logged in, and his annoyance boner for me is adorable while he still completely misunderstands what I actually raked him over. Feel free to disregard that when he brings it up, dema; there's no signal there.
And of course you must say this to all the readers :D
Why for dema "to see patterns" is a good thing and for others "to see patterns" not so good ?
Oh because the problem for you is how YOU see the behavioural patterns in other people (talking about patterns).
Gryzemuis on 20/6/2020 at 21:39
I might slowly be getting tired of all the winning I see, over there in the US .....
Nicker on 21/6/2020 at 00:07
Kudos to the headline writer on that one.
Here's a more detailed breakdown of the firing, it's motivations and implications.
Bill Barr's Friday Night Massacre.Quote:
Bill Barr fires Southern District of New York U.S. Attorney Berman after John Bolton's book reveals Trump's potential interference in cases being handled by the U.S. Attorney's office headed up by Berman.
[video=youtube;3Y3AgsQtpCA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3AgsQtpCA[/video]
One of the meatier bits is at around 5:07. Bolton quotes Trump as promising Turkish President Erdoğan, that he would end SDNY investigations into a Turkish national bank, just as soon as Donny Small Hands got rid of Obama's people and replaced them with his own.
Meanwhile Trump (
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/20/trump-covid-19-kung-flu-racist-language) goes full on racist.
Of Covid19 he quipped -
Quote:
“It has more names than any disease in history.
I can name kung flu. I can name 19 different versions of names,” he said to cheers from the crowd.
But then (
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53098439) we already knew that about him.
Quote:
Facebook says it has removed adverts for US President Donald Trump's re-election campaign that featured a symbol used in Nazi Germany.
Pyrian on 21/6/2020 at 17:51
The Berman thing is so... Hilariously incompetent.
Barr claims Berman resigned.
Berman says he didn't.
Barr claims Trump fired Berman.
Trump says he's not involved.
Berman finally agrees to resign as long as his deputy takes over instead of Barr's pick.
Of particular note is the Attorney General of the United States repeatedly lying his ass off over what could have been a fairly routine staff turnover.
lowenz on 21/6/2020 at 18:25
This "anti-system" dream team is so FUBAR :D
Thanks "alt right" for this amusement.