lowenz on 5/6/2020 at 05:41
Quote Posted by catbarf
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I have a real problem with the idea that the general public can't be trusted with semi-automatic rifles, but cops deserve carte blanche exceptions.
This general tendency to treat cops as experts in anything, be it law, firearm use, de-escalation, or any other topic tangentially related to policing, is
extremely dangerous.
I am friends with retired military personnel who did their four years of enlistment right out of high school, and they received better instruction in use of force, escalation, and ROE than these cops are demonstrating. It's ridiculous. I am constantly seeing videos of pepperballs used in contexts that don't even remotely justify them, and police escalating to beatings and rubber bullets- both potentially lethal force- in response to any hint of non-compliance. It's completely fucked up, and I sincerely hope that this is the wake-up call that Americans need to realize that cops are not the highly qualified professionals they take them for.
You've said it, nothing to add.
It's the obvious *bad* consequence of police glorification.
demagogue on 5/6/2020 at 06:05
Whoever wrote this headline has just the right amount of smartass that the situation calls for.
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https://i.imgur.com/RLKYIIJ.jpgStarker on 5/6/2020 at 10:33
Remember that time 50 scandals or so ago when Lord Dampnut was blocking hundreds of millions of dollars congressionally mandated military aid to pressure a foreign leader into announcing an investigation into his main political opponent and his son?
SubJeff on 5/6/2020 at 22:30
I watched the video and I don't see denial of medical aid. I heard the police calling for a medic though.
Where did they deny medical aid?
Also, they didn't shove him to the ground - they shove him and he clearly slips or trips.
So you're wondering "why is SubJeff defending this assholes?". I'm not. I'm stating the facts. They shove him, which was unnecessary and that they are guilty of. But they didn't intend to shove him to the ground.
Why is this important? Because facts are important. They haven't resigned because "two cops who were suspended for shoving a 75-year-old man to the ground and denying him medical aid", but because tow cope where suspended for shoving a 75 year old who then slipped and hurt himself.
Starker on 5/6/2020 at 22:43
I think they called for an ambulance, but yes, shoving down an elderly person who was, from the looks of it, bringing them a police helmet he found is completely unnecessary and really revealing of their character. Seen a lot of stuff like that over the past days -- police spitting on protesters, beating and macing unarmed protesters for speaking up (or for seemingly no reason at all), shooting a kid in the head and just leaving him lying there... There's a lot of these kinds of incidents people have been trying to gather that were captured on camera: (
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266751520055459847)
Starker on 5/6/2020 at 23:16
"Are you now or have you ever been a member of an antifascist organisation?":
Pyrian on 6/6/2020 at 00:31
Quote Posted by Starker
"Are you now or have you ever been a member of an antifascist organisation?":
"We are citizens of the United States, which fought Germany in WWII, so yes."
Renzatic on 6/6/2020 at 02:41
The whole ANTIFA hunt is going to end up exactly the same way everything plays out surrounding Trump's White House and DoJ. There will be much ado and fervor, endless talk of grand discoveries that have to be seen to be believed, which will blow everything open, and expose the very roots of the Deep State.
...and then nothing will come about. They'll congratulate themselves for a job well done, talk about how they saved America yet again, and move on to the next great controversy.
lowenz on 6/6/2020 at 06:14
Quote Posted by Renzatic
The whole ANTIFA hunt is going to end up exactly the same way everything plays out surrounding Trump's White House and DoJ. There will be much ado and fervor, endless talk of grand discoveries that have to be seen to be believed, which will blow everything open, and expose the very roots of the Deep State.
...and then nothing will come about. They'll congratulate themselves for a job well done, talk about how they saved America yet again, and move on to the next great controversy.
It's how actual representative democracy works :p
