Starker on 3/6/2020 at 05:08
Apparently, the reason New York police has been covering up their badge numbers during the protests was actually to honour their colleagues who have died of the coronavirus:
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https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1267937587043303424)
And this must then be how they show their respect for medical workers on the front lines:
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-medical-workers-fighting-covid-say-cops-are-attacking-them-at-george-floyd-protests?ref=home)
Twenty minutes after leaving his job at a Brooklyn hospital on Saturday night, 32-year-old Rayne Valentine was lying in the fetal position on the sidewalk.
He'd been beaten and kicked by New York police officers, his hospital ID smeared with his own blood, he told The Daily Beast.
Valentine, a Marine veteran who worked as a chef before the pandemic hit the restaurant industry, got a job in March at Kings County Hospital Center. He has spent the past several months moving medicine and patients around the facility, as well as piling hundreds of dead bodies—many of them COVID-19 victims—into refrigerated morgue trucks.
Valentine told The Daily Beast on Tuesday that he needed a job, but, like many Americans, he also felt helpless and wanted to contribute on the front lines of the deadly pandemic. Unfortunately, his is just one of many horrifying stories of medical workers, firefighters, and paramedics who've been heralded as heroes—only to be tear gassed or beaten by police during the days of civil unrest following the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd.
“They needed people,” said Valentine. “The first day I was [at the hospital], we loaded up 45 bodies in a few hours. I saw a lot of the staff having breakdowns. It was scary for a lot of people.” But Valentine felt that his military background—serving four years overseas in the Marine Corps—meant he could handle seeing things that the average American may not be able to process.
But even his time overseas did not prepare him for Saturday.
When Valentine left work, around 11:45 p.m. that night, police were clashing with protesters nearby on Church Avenue, squad cars ablaze. He was trying to avoid the chaos and would have taken an Uber or another route “if I'd known” how close the skirmishes had traveled, he recalled.
“It's not a route I usually take. I had to take a double shift the next day, and they allow hospital workers to get hotel rooms,” said Valentine. “I was having a smoke and had my headphones in to try and decompress.”
But around midnight, he came across a “swarm” of police officers near the entrance to the Church Avenue subway station, chasing a “kid in this yellow and black hoodie,” and Valentine had his phone out recording.
“I stayed out of the way,” said Valentine. “I was up against one of the closed shops just recording. I didn't say anything to antagonize them. I was walking backwards as they shouted ‘back up.' And then this cop pushed me, and there were other cops hitting me on my legs and stuff too, but my head is the only thing that got seriously injured.”
In the video, which was reviewed by The Daily Beast, officers shout at Valentine to “move back” and he responds “I am moving back!”
During the beating, Valentine said, he kept getting kicked and his phone stopped recording. He said he told the officers, “I'm just trying to go home,” but that they responded: “Well, you picked the wrong time to do that.”
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Dia on 3/6/2020 at 12:34
I don't get it; the protests are about illegal and unwarranted police brutality, so what do far too many cops in our country do? They respond with even more police brutality. I feel like I missed a memo or something.
Starker on 3/6/2020 at 13:20
Part of it is probably that the protests pose a direct threat to them -- the protestors are going after their authority and their immunity from law.
Another part might be that a lot of them fully support the current president and the idea that the police have to be tough and instil fear first and foremost.
Also, this is kind of how they normally operate. At least looking at it from the outside, the US police and the entire policing culture seems to be completely messed up. For several decades now violent crime in the US has been going down, but police brutality has only increased. And shows of force like the current one is what they are willing to show people publicly. Just imagine what they do when they don't think anyone's looking.
heywood on 3/6/2020 at 19:12
The police profession tends to attract some people with personality disorders who really shouldn't be anywhere near law enforcement. Most cops are not like that, but you'll find at least some in any large department. Police are also extremely fraternal. It's up to the leadership of the department to recognize the problem individuals and keep them reigned in, and to establish a culture that doesn't tolerate misbehavior and cover up. Some large police departments have failed miserably at this, to the point where problem attitudes and behavior are so ingrained in the culture that whistleblowing becomes a career ending move. NYPD is a good example.
Nicker on 3/6/2020 at 20:25
In Canada, the police act frames the police as, first and foremost, "Peace Officers". Their primary concern is to keep the peace and enforcing the law is only one part of that duty. It seems like a small detail but it is a significant difference between that and "law enforcement officers", who put enforcement above all else, even at the expense of peace.
I'm not pretending that Canadian police, especially the RCMP, are free of prejudice and always act with unwavering professionalism, but the standard they are held to is very different and the result is, for the most part, very different as well.
Starker on 3/6/2020 at 20:45
Then it's probably also the police academies that are at fault here. After years of training and psychological exams and whatnot it should be pretty clear who the barrel spoiling apples are.
SubJeff on 3/6/2020 at 22:43
We had a (
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52907101) protest in London today. There clearly wasn't social distancing.
And we've (
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/02/key-findings-from-public-health-englands-report-on-covid-19-deaths) just had a report that shows "After
accounting for the effect of sex, age, deprivation and region, it found that people of Bangladeshi ethnicity were at most risk, with around twice the risk of death than people of white British ethnicity.
People of Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, other Asian,
Caribbean and other black ethnicity had between 10% and 50% higher risk of death when compared to white British."
This makes me think protesting right now is... well, let's change the slogan shall we? Perhaps it should be:
Black Lives Matter*
*unless they result from Covid contracted at a protest.
Starker on 3/6/2020 at 23:00
Lord Dampnut wants everyone to know that he was only inspecting the bunker and definitely not hiding there or anything:
Meanwhile, presumably because all this fascist pageantry has not been in-your-face enough, Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz has (
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1267513356853919744) publicly called for antifascists to be hunted down.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/)
The FBI's Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation. That same day, President Donald Trump announced on Twitter that he would designate “Antifa” a terrorist organization, even though the government has no existing authority to declare a domestic group a terrorist organization, and antifa is not an organized group. Following the president's tweet, Attorney General William Barr said in a statement, “The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”
The FBI report, however, states that “based on CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison, FBI WFO has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence.” The statement followed a list of violent acts like throwing bricks at police and the discovery of a backpack containing explosive materials, which were flagged by the FBI under a “Key Updates” section of the report. The FBI has been issuing such reports daily since the weekend, according to a Bureau source, who added that none of these documents contained any evidence of antifa violence.
Antifa, short for “anti-fascist,” is a type of militant anti-racist, anti-nationalist organizing that does not rely on the justice system to confront the far right. Groups associated with antifa have destroyed property and committed violence in the past, but the fact that the FBI's situation reports cannot find any evidence of such involvement now suggests that fears about such groups may be exaggerated.
The report did warn that individuals from a far-right social media group had “called for far-right provocateurs to attack federal agents, use automatic weapons against protesters.”
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