Nicker on 2/6/2020 at 05:21
Oh our crazy cousins to the south. I don't do prayers so I'll just have to hope like hell you get through this and come out a better country in the end. The night 45 got handed the keys to the country, I knew it was a bad thing but I never imagined it would be this bad.
henke on 2/6/2020 at 07:19
I've barely been able to get any work done the last few days. Just reading twitter and feeling depressed about where America is heading. You've got one of the wealthiest countries in the world, but how is that money being used? (
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/03/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-target-saying-3-richest-have-much-w/) The 3 wealthies families own as much as the poorest 50% of the country. And a huge chunk of taxpayer money is going to militarizing the police. Why do cops need riot gear and APCs? To keep the bottom 50% of the country in check.
America was supposed to be the
good superpower goddammit. While Russia and China get more and more authoritarian, at least we could look across the pond to the USA, and know we had an ally who more or less shared our values. Trump is withdrawing from international agreements and embrasing fascism, and a depressingly large chunk of Americans see no problem with that. It doesn't have to be like this.
Starker on 2/6/2020 at 08:25
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Seems a lot of people on Facebook think that Antifa are this massive, organized insurgency serving as the personal army of the Democrats, and includes a number of politicians among their numbers. I saw someone compare them as being the much the same as the IRA is to the Senn Fein.
Well, anyone can say they are "antifa":
Quote:
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456)
A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national “antifa” organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.
The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.
As protests were taking place in multiple states across the U.S. Sunday night, the newly created account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted, “Tonight's the night, Comrades,” with a brown raised fist emoji and “Tonight we say 'F--- The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours ...”
This isn't the first time Twitter has taken action against fake accounts engaged in hateful conduct linked to Identity Evropa, according to the spokesperson.
The antifa movement — a network of loosely organized radical groups who use direct action to fight the far-right and fascism — has been targeted by President Donald Trump as the force behind some of the violence and property destruction seen at some protests, though little evidence has been provided for such claims.
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lowenz on 2/6/2020 at 08:30
Of course now it's the time of fake accounts spreading non-sense violence to hit the movement.
Ah, the freedom of expression backdoors.....
lowenz on 2/6/2020 at 08:34
Quote Posted by henke
Trump is withdrawing from international agreements and embrasing fascism, and a depressingly large chunk of Americans see no problem with that. It doesn't have to be like this.
Welcome to reality.....people hate violence only when they have not the kingpin by their side. If they got a glorified kingpin talking "JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED WITH BULLETS AND PRISON" they start *loving* authoritarism (with the fake and childish promise of not being touched by the violence, of course eventually they'll be touched).
demagogue on 2/6/2020 at 11:37
I have to cross post this comment I made to that hideous photo of Trump holding the Bible, taken just after tear gassing people calling out for help so he could walk over to a church he didn't even enter. It's a wonder that Bible didn't burst into flames.
Quote:
The Bible according to Trump, One Corinthians 13:4-8
Hate is impatient. Hate is cruel. It envies; it boasts; it is proud. It dishonors others; it is self-seeking; it is easily angered; it keeps a record of wrongs. Hate delights in evil, but despises the truth. It never protects, never trusts, never hopes, never perseveres.
Thirith on 2/6/2020 at 11:39
Quote Posted by SubJeff
The videos coming out of these protests/riots are unreal. The police are being dicks. The looters and rioters are being dicks. It's one big dick fest.
Honestly, I find this to be a massive - and, frankly, quite dickish - false equivalency.
Dia on 2/6/2020 at 12:30
Quote Posted by Renzatic
So we're still in the midst of a pandemic, and now we've seen two big protests erupt across the nation.
Please don't confuse protesting with rioting and looting. And yes, I fully expect to see a sudden increase in the number of COVID-19 cases and related deaths in the coming weeks. The epidemic hasn't gone away just because states have been bullied and threatened into lifting stay at home orders and re-opening businesses, contrary to what some in our government want us to believe.
zombe on 2/6/2020 at 14:09
I doubt there will be a sudden increase. Daily positives (whole country) are continuing to decline so far - but seem to have slowed down a bit. Might even start to go up again (or already going ... too early to tell for sure), but i think even then it would be slow. Sudden and considerable small flareups still might happen here and there - but probably not anything even remotely NY scale.
Daily positives is a horribly lagging stat to follow for this, so my random guess is based on how people behave in general - most of the people will continue to avoid unnecessary contacts whenever they can.
That helps a lot. Even a tiny change in infection rate can have huge effects - quirk of exponential functions. If the infection rate rises, but fails to get past 1.0 - the virus dies out. Granted, it will be an elongated shit-show if it stays close to 1.0 - but at least that is manageable.
People are very reluctant to go back to their "normal", pre covid, behavior - it is next to impossible for
everyone to forget that the virus is still present. That will have an effect even when
everyone would be forced to go back to work under pre-covid working conditions (inc. everyone who lost their job) as you can not force anything else beyond that to go back to "normal" too:
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https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/)
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https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-05-25_US_Mobility_Report_en.pdf)
So, there is some hope on the virus front. Felt i needed to share that.
