jkcerda on 4/3/2020 at 17:10
Quote Posted by heywood
There's still a lot of time for a disaster to happen before Nov; a war, financial crisis, Covid-19, whatever. But barring a disaster, I think Trump has this in the bag. Biden is the weakest opponent he could realistically hope for. The cynic in me thinks he tricked Democrats into supporting the person he wanted to run against using a bit of reverse psychology.
I really don't understand Democratic voters and their attraction to duds.
well they have no choice in the matter.
anyways, just what democrats want .
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Starker on 4/3/2020 at 17:16
Quote Posted by heywood
There’s still a lot of time for a disaster to happen before Nov; a war, financial crisis, Covid-19, whatever. But barring a disaster, I think Trump has this in the bag. Biden is the weakest opponent he could realistically hope for. The cynic in me thinks he tricked Democrats into supporting the person he wanted to run against using a bit of reverse psychology.
I really don’t understand Democratic voters and their attraction to duds.
You think Lord Dampnut is so clever he would blatantly abuse his office and try to hide the evidence / obstruct justice just for a bit of reverse psychology in case it comes out?
Personally, I think it's the other way around -- it's Bernie who's going to have the toughest time beating Lord Dampnut and Biden will have an easier time. And it's not just because the polls favour Biden either -- rather it's the way every Republican is drooling for Bernie that makes me think they have something big in store.
jkcerda on 4/3/2020 at 17:33
Biden would indeed be the best one suited against Trump with independents, Bernie has no chance outside of the fringe left.
that said Biden is toast.
Renzatic on 4/3/2020 at 17:54
That probably doesn't mean what you think it means, Tony.
heywood on 5/3/2020 at 01:31
I was half joking about the reverse psychology bit. But I would not put it past Republican strategists to conduct a little psy ops.
Barring a disaster, which is entirely possible, it will be an uphill battle for any of the Democratic candidates to beat Trump. But out of the group of them who made it to the first primary, I think Biden is the weakest. It’s going to take a miracle for him to win.
But at least Bloomberg stepped aside, thankfully. For a little bit there, I thought he might realize the campaign finance reformers worst nightmare.
catbarf on 5/3/2020 at 03:18
At the very least he's going to have absolutely no enthusiasm among younger voters. From his condescending attitude towards the economic struggles of millennials/gen z to his characterization of game developers as 'little creeps', I've never seen a candidate so perfectly represent the out-of-touch boomer stereotype.
But hey, a platform of 'not Trump' worked so well last time, might as well give it another go.
Starker on 5/3/2020 at 03:19
Why is Biden the weakest candidate? He has significant support from suburban and black voters, both enormously important in the swing states -- the only states that matter. Bernie, however, would have a very tough time in places like Florida (where the voters are as old as dirt, if not older). Seems to me Bernie's path to victory is much narrower than Biden's.
Also, Biden's character contrasts much more with Lord Dampnut's and you bet that their showdown will not be a discussion of policy proposals. With Bernie we already have had a little taste of the playbook -- fearmongering of socialism and Bernie coming to take away your health care to replace it with crappy government health care and raising your taxes while at it. And it will only get worse from there. On the other hand, with Biden there's just a vague conspiracy theory that beautifully segues into why Lord Dampnut was impeached.
demagogue on 5/3/2020 at 05:11
For Biden, the "leaked Burisma emails" are going to undoubtedly show the direct participation of Biden in shutting down the corruption investigation in the Ukraine against his son's company. The beauty of that is, most Russian agitprop is easy to spot because Russians tend to botch English articles (a, the) and plurals, but in this case the emails are going to be "written" in Ukraine or by people already writing in bad English.
Exit polls are saying Biden was picked as the safer candidate more likely to beat Trump over Sanders, which is anyway an easy sentiment to understand (whether one is sympathetic or not) and more credible than literally rigging things against Sanders.
People are agitating and want some kind of uproar, so my feeling is you're going to get people up in arms one way or another no matter what happens. There will be a conspiracy ready-made to run with.
Pyrian on 5/3/2020 at 08:54
Why should anyone think "excited young voters" would enable Sanders to beat Trump in the general election if they're not enough to win the Democratic primary? The latter should be a smaller hill to climb.
I'm not convinced the specifics of the Republican attack vectors matter much. It's hard to imagine something more nothing-burger than the e-mail and Benghazi scandals they made so much hay out of last time. They'll attack Biden over this, Sanders over that. They'd attack a turnip for secretly being a fruit.
