Starker on 20/2/2020 at 03:39
Quote Posted by catbarf
My-candidate-or-bust voters have never been a serious issue for either party.
Sufficient numbers of Bernie voters switched to Lord Dampnut in 2016 to give him the edge of winning.
Renzatic on 20/2/2020 at 04:27
We don't really know how many Bernie Bros voted for Trump in 2016, or what effect it may have had on the election. We only know that some did.
Starker on 20/2/2020 at 04:48
Sure, surveys are not precisely an exact science. But Lord Dampnut also won with razor-thin margins.
uncadonego on 20/2/2020 at 05:05
Remember also that Trump was helped by people who voted Democrat right down the ballot, but left president blank, feeling that neither candidate was a good choice. He would have lost in Michigan for example, had all those Dems filled the ballot with what they felt was a better choice.
Renzatic on 20/2/2020 at 05:42
Quote Posted by Starker
Sure, surveys are not precisely an exact science. But Lord Dampnut also won with razor-thin margins.
Yeah, though I'd say it's more likely that Trump won that razor margin through independent Obama voters taking a chance on the crazy new Washington outsider, assuming he'd "become presidential" (remember that?) were he to win the office. They're a larger group than those hardcore, truly rabid Bernie Bros who would've voted for Trump out of simple spite because their favored candidate was scorned by the DNC.
...though I consider them more a contributing demographic, rather than a major one, I still think they're the stupidest people on the face of the earth. Yeah, go around espousing the wonders of universal healthcare and affordable education, then turn around, and vote for the guy who will do everything in his power to bury these initiatives. Why? Because fuck Hillary, that's why!
Yeah, way to cut off your own nose to spite your face, dipshits.
Starker on 20/2/2020 at 06:27
Yeah, it looks like there were a not insignificant number of people who cast a protest vote or just wanted to make some sort of a statement. And only a bit more than 1/10 of Bernie voters switched their vote to Lord Dampnut nationally (though it was closer to 1/5 in some states). But there were still enough of them that if half of them had stayed home in crucial swing states, Clinton would have won.
Starker on 20/2/2020 at 06:35
So, what's the deal with Tom Steyer? Looks like he's another filthy rich guy throwing money around in the race. If he should win the nomination, are the more progressive people going to stay home in disgust like they say they will with that Bloomberg guy?
Pyrian on 20/2/2020 at 06:45
I think most people aren't taking Steyer's candidacy seriously at all.
Renzatic on 20/2/2020 at 07:04
Quote Posted by Starker
But there were still enough of them that if half of them had stayed home in crucial swing states, Clinton would have won.
I'm gonna say maybe and possibly. The race was close enough in a few key states that it's not entirely improbable to assume they could've been responsible for being a couple of those few hundreds who swung things Trump's way.
As for Steyer, he could pop up again in 2024, but for now, he's an also-ran. Anyone who's polling south of Biden is pretty much out of the race by this point.
Starker on 20/2/2020 at 07:58
Few tens of thousands, to be more precise. And the estimated amount is more than double of Lord Dampnut's winning margins in those key states.
But anyway, if you have a hate boner for Bloomberg, I think you will want to watch the last debate and you might even be glad he made it there. If it was up on a porn site, the category would have to be something like humiliation gangbang.
