Tocky on 16/2/2020 at 00:28
If by better you mean more schoolyard durr hurr then yeah. If by better you mean not knowing how stupid Republicans are then yeah.
Also what is a trad? I thought they wanted baps. Barefoot and pregnant... while they cheat with porn stars.
Renzatic on 16/2/2020 at 03:40
Trad go bap eventually.
lowenz on 16/2/2020 at 09:22
trad+bap=trap? :cheeky:
Now I get why the intelligent ones always say "We do no hate LGBTQ people but the ideology behind those movements using them! They are the first victims!!11"
lowenz on 16/2/2020 at 11:30
So let's make Michelle president, who doens't love a strong black overpowering panther image? Ah, right, republi-cans prefer that empty ditsy shell Palin.....
Tony_Tarantula on 16/2/2020 at 14:51
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, this of course doesn't sound like
confirmation bias, nooooooooooo :D
"Confirmation Bias is a demonic leftist pseudologic contraption for libtUrdheads!!!111 There's simply right and wrong and of course the Right is right by definition so the Left
is left being wrong!" :p
Do you form your thoughts by pulling words out of raffle drum filled with phrases like "nothingburger", "whataboutism", "confirmation bias" and "reality has a left wing bias"?
Tony_Tarantula on 16/2/2020 at 14:55
Inline Image:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQhhuO3WoAEU71Q?format=png&name=4096x4096Inline Image:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQhhuO-WAAENX_A?format=jpg&name=4096x4096If you think there is not really any relationship between political views and mental illness once you control for every relevant variable, you should ask yourself what it would take for this to be true given the data, because we're not talking about small effects here. if you want to say that this relationship between political views and mental illness should not be used to reject a political view on the ground that many of its proponents are mentally ill, then I completely agree. But don't bend over backward to explain away the data...
Nicker on 16/2/2020 at 15:30
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But don't bend over backward to explain away the data...
I won't, especially if you are not going to bend over in any direction to explore (
https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/02/12/welcome-infowars-readers/) SCC's own comments on the validity of the cited study above...
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4. The SSC survey is a bad sample to use for this [links between political views and mental illness], not just because it’s unrepresentative, but because it might be unrepresentative of different political affiliations in different ways. For example, SSC Marxists really are surprisingly depressed, but maybe the only Marxists who would read an anti-Marxist blog are depressed Marxists looking for things to be miserable and angry about (though see below for some counterevidence).
While you enjoy your cherries you can practice hitching your horse to the back of the cart. Consider the possibility that leftism isn't caused by mental illness but rather that some depression is the result of more complex thinking and empathy. And maybe some depression isn't a mental illness but just the healthy realization that the fate of the world is presently in the hands of a mad king whose subjects believe that the end to all their woes is to build a fucking WALL.
Tony_Tarantula on 16/2/2020 at 15:43
To your point:
Here's the same thing but excluding depression:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQhmENkWAAclmEV?format=png&name=4096x4096Besides which we shouldn't even need this data. We all already know that people on the fringes are more likely to be crazy.
Besides which...
Thank you for that clarifying link. It backs up the only thing I presented which was the data:
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This is accurate only insofar as the result uses the publicly available data I provide. The claim about mental illness was made by Twitter user Philippe Lemoine and not by me. In general, if a third party analyzes SSC survey data, I would prefer that media sources reporting on their analysis attribute it to them, and not to SSC.
As far as I can tell,
Lemoine's analysis is accurate enough, but needs some clarifications:
The post says "It's accurate, but here's some rationalization as to possible reasons why".
Also:
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5. A commenter on Lemoine's tweet links to this blog post by someone who
found the same thing in the General Social Survey. The General Social Survey is much larger and more rigorous than my survey, and there's no reason to care what my survey has to say when there are GSS results available.
Thank you for the link. That actually made me more confident in the validity of the information.
Nicker on 16/2/2020 at 16:02
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Thank you for the link. That actually made me more confident in the validity of the information.
And therein lies the real problem.
