Renzatic on 12/2/2020 at 17:57
Quote Posted by jkcerda
they don't have to "support" trump, but rather reject the feel good liberal BS the dems are pushing, not everyone is interested in paying more taxes for feel good bullshit.
No, but they are interested in cheaper insulin, and affordable healthcare.
Quote Posted by SlyFoxx
Wishing old republicans were dead. Stay classy Comm Chat!
The hell you whining about now?
Renzatic on 12/2/2020 at 18:28
Not well, so I guess you think our only option is to buy from a country that has its shit together, rather than doing the work ourselves.
Though we could just copy the Canadian healthcare system, instead of leaching off of them, but no, the Affordable Care Act sucks.
Starker on 12/2/2020 at 19:21
It got 20 million more people coverage.
How did Lord Dampnut's health care plan work out?
Starker on 12/2/2020 at 19:52
Do you have any idea how much more expensive it is to not give these people health care and to treat them in emergency rooms? Besides, they pay taxes too.
Meanwhile, your hero is touting a hare-brained scheme to win political points and the Democrats' bill to allow the government to negotiate drug prices is gathering dust in the Senate.
Renzatic on 12/2/2020 at 19:59
It's only fair, JK. We've been crossing the border for cheap dental work and medications for years now. May as well give something back.
Starker on 12/2/2020 at 20:00
Also, this is literally how insurance is made to work in a market of adverse selection. Is car insurance not mandatory in the US?
Renzatic on 12/2/2020 at 20:04
There may be a couple of states where it's not, but for the most part, yeah.
Renzatic on 12/2/2020 at 20:25
The funny thing is how one of the major concerns about universal healthcare from the pundit crowd is how it effects our "freedom." With a single payer system, you don't have the ability to opt out, so it's anti-American.
But let's think about it. Our choices are between an expensive system you can say no to, or a cheaper system you always have to pay into. What are the advantages of being able to say no? It'll immediately save you a ton of money. Insurance on average is about ~8-20% of your paycheck depending on your plan co-pays and deductibles, and number of people covered, so that's money now in your pocket. In three years, you can buy a really nice car! But then one day, you wake up with a a cough that won't seem to go away. You pay $100 to go to your local doctor, who refers you to a lung specialist to get an x-ray, costing you an additional $200, and you find out, holy shit, IT'S THE BIG C!
So what do you do? No insurance company will take your tumor riddled ass, because you're practically guaranteed to be a sunk cost. Chemotherapy and radiation treatments will cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars, which you can't afford. Hell, you dropped your insurance just to buy a car. You can either try to go in debt with the hospital, which you'll probably default on if you survive, screwing the hospital in the process, or just pick a nice ditch to die in.
Now in a single payer system, the average you pay is about ~4-6% of your monthly paycheck. You're paying less than the entirely private system, but you don't have any ability to opt out. So long as you have a job, you're paying into the system. You have no choice in the matter.
So our choices are to support a system where you pay less, but payment is mandatory, or pay more, but you reserve the option to fuck yourself and your family.
