Starker on 21/1/2020 at 18:06
And how does the Constitution treat sedition? Or, more crucially, how does the US military treat sedition?
It is a mistake to think that wars of the 21st century will be fought like the wars of the 20th century. Any insurrection will look more like how the Islamic State was set up than anything with two sides.
Starker on 21/1/2020 at 18:27
And how will use of force fight it? Do you think you will have a lawful government if you topple it?
Starker on 21/1/2020 at 18:28
Also, the loudest voices clamouring for a boogaloo, as they call it, come from the far-right. Do you think these people will be able to hold themselves in check when the day comes? That they will not go out and commit atrocities?
jkcerda on 21/1/2020 at 18:51
The day came in VA, gazillion attended fully armed, nothing happened. same level of stupidity passed here in Kommiefornia, no shots have been fired yet. plenty of citizens were illegally disarmed after katrina, hell it was the cops killing civilians after katrina, you guys are going after the wrong people who are armed
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And how will use of force fight it? Do you think you will have a lawful government if you topple it?
if you are armed you CAN use force to fight it. I also did not say a thing about toppling the GOVT, merely mentioned you have a right to defend yourself and can use lethal force if needed .
Starker on 21/1/2020 at 18:58
Civil war came in VA?
Plenty of people were hoping for violence, though:
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/white-supremacist-group-the-base-suspects-arrested-virginia-gun-rally.html)
Three suspected white supremacists who were arrested Thursday in Maryland had discussed opening fire from the pro-gun rally that will take place in Virginia this coming Monday, according to the Wall Street Journal. Law enforcement officials on Friday said that the men had allegedly been planning to sow chaos and further their goal of “accelerat[ing] the downfall of the U.S. government” so that a white ethno-state can take its place.
It was also reported Friday that an additional three men associated with the same violent neo-Nazi group had been arrested in Georgia on Wednesday. Those three men had allegedly been plotting to kill two people.
All six people are thought to be members of a group known as The Base, an intensely violent extremist group. The three suspects arrested Thursday face charges related to firearms and harboring immigrants residing in the country illegally.
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And these are the main people who are actually for civil war. Most of the right simply uses it as a scaremongering tactic.
Renzatic on 21/1/2020 at 19:05
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Plenty of people were hoping for violence, though.
You have to remember that the Alt-Right, QAnon, the Incels, and all the other extremist weirdos are an overly loud minority, not the status quo. Though people like JK, who are overall pretty moderate, but talk a tough game online, do confuse things a bit, but that's the internet being the internet.
Also, what's that about a bunch of Neo-Nazis harboring illegals? I'm gonna have to assume we're not talking Mexican brand illegal immigrants here.
Starker on 21/1/2020 at 19:37
I know, I have been keeping an eye on them since 2016. Only 9% of the US think white supremacist/neo-Nazi views are acceptable and there are even fewer people who are willing to do something about it. Still, even a small minority can do a lot of damage. McVeigh was just one person.
The illegal immigrant was a white nationalist from Canada.
jkcerda on 21/1/2020 at 19:52
I don't see normal people following those groups should the time for boogaloo happen.
it was mostly the lefty media hoping for the violence.
