Renzatic on 17/10/2019 at 18:08
If you really want to see how far our standards have fallen, compare Clinton's impeachment to Trump's possibly up and coming one. I'm not going to say that what ole Slick Willy did was good, but all it took was lying to congress over a non-criminal impropriety to justify impeachment back in the 90's, while now we're seeing very compelling evidence of corruption of office, coupled with a direct violation of the constitution, all backed by multiple witness testimony, and we're not even sure it the Republicans will break party lines to proceed with the trial.
Nicker on 17/10/2019 at 18:36
Quote Posted by jkcerda
lmmfao, the one guy who is withdrawing from oretards mess in Syria and has actually been to the DMZ in NK is the guy who is going to nuke Europe, you guys are priceless.
I quoted Trump. If you have a problem with that, take it up with your secret orange crush.
That meeting in the DMZ was nothing other than a propaganda coupe for Li'l Kimmy. A few weeks prior, Trump had been trying to goad NK into war and spewing playground insults. Then suddenly they are in love. Is that how it was for you, too?
Pyrian on 17/10/2019 at 18:53
Now Trump's placed the G7 summit at one of his own properties. Direct, brazen corruption.
lowenz on 17/10/2019 at 19:51
Quote Posted by Renzatic
If you really want to see how far our standards have fallen, compare Clinton's impeachment to Trump's possibly up and coming one. I'm not going to say that what ole Slick Willy did was good, but all it took was lying to congress over a non-criminal impropriety to justify impeachment back in the 90's, while now we're seeing very compelling evidence of corruption of office, coupled with a direct violation of the constitution, all backed by multiple witness testimony, and we're not even sure it the Republicans will break party lines to proceed with the trial.
+1
Renzatic on 18/10/2019 at 01:43
Kiev is currently taking Trump's side in this matter, claiming they weren't coerced in any way. So, are you saying they're attempting to make amends by kissing up to Trump now, or is this yet another distraction from the issue at hand?
Nicker on 18/10/2019 at 02:40
JK - It doesn't matter if the Ukraine was working for the Dems in 2016. It doesn't matter if the Bidens are Illuminati Lizard People who eat Ukrainian babies. It matters that Trump withdrew vital military aid from the Ukraine then demanded they help him get elected in order to have that aid restored... IN 2019!
It also matters that, after denying this up and down for days, Trump confirmed it with his release of the "transcript" and it matters that multiple sources, including his Ambassador to the EU and his Chief Of Staff (acting), confirm this too.
Jo Biden (jingle jingle)! Hillary (jingle jingle)! It's jingle all the fucking way with you.
Renzatic on 18/10/2019 at 02:54
You have two ambassadors, and at least three whistleblowers testifying against him, one claiming they were removed at Giuliani's behalf, the other stating that they were instructed to work with Giuliani directly. Four of Giuliani's Ukrainian associates have been arrested for campaign finance violations, and things aren't exactly looking good for the man himself at this point. Rick Perry has stepped down from his position due to a conflict of interests in Ukraine, and even John Fucking Bolton has stated that he thought some of the things Trump was doing in Ukraine were suspicious, and has publicly announced he wanted nothing at all to do with it, so leave him the hell alone.
Mulvaney's little Freudian slip is just one more little turd on the shitpile Trump's built for himself. Even without it, the Democrats have a solid case against him. There's more evidence against Trump now that there was against Clinton pre-trial. The only thing that will save him is the GOP voting party line to protect him in the senate.
Nicker on 18/10/2019 at 02:59
And just to refocus this thread on its primary target, Trump continued his criminal enterprises even after he was elected.
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https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies) In 2017 he reported wildly different revenues to New York tax authorities as he did to banks where he was seeking loans.
Quote:
...Trump told the lender that he took in twice as much rent from one building as he reported to tax authorities during the same year, 2017. He also gave conflicting occupancy figures for one of his signature skyscrapers, located at 40 Wall Street.
This is both tax fraud and bank fraud. We already know of other cases of trump misreporting revenues and values to banks, insurers and the tax man. So why isn't he in a holding cell already. Dems, get cracking.
And whaddaboutisms incoming in 3... 2...
