jkcerda on 8/10/2019 at 03:50
it's about 3" because extenze happens to be a ripoff.
glad cheeto hitler is getting the fuck out, about damn time. good night.
Renzatic on 8/10/2019 at 04:12
Geez, man. You didn't even try this time.
...it's like I don't even know who you are anymore. O_0
Starker on 8/10/2019 at 04:14
Maybe you should read more of your articles than just the first line.
Quote:
Clinton, speaking at a town hall meeting in Hollis, said the United States should pursue a diplomatic solution in resolving Syria’s internal conflict.
A diplomatic solution? What a monster.
lowenz on 8/10/2019 at 08:30
Quote Posted by jkcerda
before you pretend this bullshit was about "humanitarian aid"
I'm not that kind of moron but "
obliterate the economy" is about Turkey.
And seen as a WELCOME achievement for USA (do they want to oblitarate every economic partner with embargo?! This is mortal to USA too because you know, the market works with mutual exchange, not domination - if you "obliterate" an economy how and what do you trade?)
rachel on 8/10/2019 at 08:50
There's no need to read between the lines, he's a gigantic moron. I cannot comprehend how he's still in office spewing this shit.
demagogue on 8/10/2019 at 09:00
An NSA source listening in on the call says Trump got "(
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-official-who-heard-call-says-trump-got-rolled-turkey-has-no-spine-1463623) rolled" by Turkey into giving away the farm that made him look spineless & a terrible negotiator (actually negative returns). One can interpret the Tweet as buyer's remores; when T realized it he had an emotional reaction and swung in the other direction and promised to obliterate Turkey's economy if it did anything "bad" with the farm he just gave away. My Turkish friends are universally, all two of them, furious with Trump for his remarks for deigning to boss them around, and I feel like they represent mainstream Turkish opinion. So even if there were some political will he squeezed out of giving Turkey the farm, he set fire to it before the day was even over. My friends that are into international relations (the ones that think democracy, human rights, and self determination are good things) are astounded at how slick he handed the Kurds over to their fate and sided with Turkey for, what, Trump Tower Istanbul?
So everybody on every side feels offended and alienated. There should be a term for negotiating skills that leave things worse than before you got involved and each side of the deal feels like they've lost something, like the anti-Getting to Yes if you know what that means.
The only people that aren't offended I imagine are his base (those friends aren't posting on this because this isn't going to get on their radar to begin with -- who knows or cares anything about Iraq anymore, much less Kurds and Turkey; why are we still even there?, etc.). But one could work out what the response would be easily enough, e.g., some skin deep reading, if that, into the decision itself (get the US out of foreign entanglements and let the Middle East deal with its own messes, sounds great!) and the later statement (talk tough to gov'ts that think they can mess with us, sounds great!). And that's that. That and what about Hillary? Stick it on a bumper sticker: 4 more years.
Edit: The Kurdish problem itself is a self-determination issue in the same vein as North Ireland, Basque region, West Sahara, Palestine, etc, etc, and I always advocate, if you want to talk about one, look at the others as case studies and try to work off general principles. (It help get around the emotional reaction of your own case since you don't have a dog in the race). I even sympathize that it's not a problem that one should expect to solve overnight, even for ministers in Turkey, Iraq, and Syria and the international community which are of a mind to really seriously address the issues in an unbiased way and try to weed out the propaganda from the facts (which of course isn't everybody). So I can understand disagreements on the best way to make progress on this. I'm just not sure there's much basis for disagreeing that this was botched no matter which side you're on.
Edit2: Of the things to be focusing on these days, though, I don't think this is relatively that important, considering what impeachment hearings may well start smoking out of the woodwork soon. God help us. I hope after all this is over we humans find some things of common interest to bring some sense of unity and shared humanity back to the fore, a mission to Mars or an alien/AI invasion maybe. Something.
Nicker on 8/10/2019 at 12:31
"...in my great and unmatched wisdom..."
Just a reminder of the state of mind of the lunatic in charge. That said...
Quote:
glad cheeto hitler is getting the fuck out, about damn time. good night.
It is pathetic and transparent how you pretend to condemn Trump while lavishing praise on everything he says and does. You have been doing it since day one here and it still doesn't work.
lowenz on 8/10/2019 at 15:16
That is blunt irony.
The real problem is the economic ignorance.
You can't "obliterate" a state economy like Turkey's one with no consequences for the very same USA you're president of.
jkcerda on 9/10/2019 at 15:23
Quote Posted by Starker
Maybe you should read more of your articles than just the first line.
A diplomatic solution? What a monster.
that POS will tell you what she thinks is convenient at the time.
you can't have diplomatic solutions when goat fuckers are hell bent on getting their own nation, by that I mean the Kurds.
(
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29702440)
goat fuckers from the M=E are all hell bent on killing each other in order to get themselves 72 fresh goats if they die martyr's , you arm one sect and you basically make another one your enemy, why the fuck should we continue to arm these POS goat fuckers ?
I prefer sheep btw, so much more classy.
