charlestheoaf on 29/8/2007 at 05:48
I'm a Texan that grew up fat, but I'm not any more :) I'm a few pounds over my ideal weight at the moment, but that'll all be gone again soon enough.
Also, about eating at night: I've noticed that eating at night, even very large quantities, does not seem to have an impact on my weight. In fact, during phases of weight loss (my weight has fluctuated a bit over the years), I have eaten lots of food at night just before bed and still woken up visually thinner than I was the day before, even for multiple days on end.
Of course, I'm a big guy and am pretty physically active/exercise a lot, and I think I have a pretty high metabolism (judging by the amount of food I eat).
crunchy on 29/8/2007 at 05:52
I bet that kid in McDonalds is pointing at his father's BigMac and saying "Are you going to eat that?"
SubJeff on 29/8/2007 at 06:14
Quote Posted by charlestheoaf
I have eaten lots of food at night just before bed and still woken up visually thinner than I was the day before, even for multiple days on end.
Did you expect the little men inside you to work overtime at night?
Despite the fact that the eating at night thing is not true
anyway, how can you think that you'd look visually fatter the next day anyway? You just wouldn't put weight on that quickly. Multiple days? Meh. Weeks, yes.
People have a LOT of funny ideas about weight loss and funny ideas about food. You'd have to eat a crap load of aspartame in order to have any effect on your thyroid or any other hormone system. Even so - final height is a function of parental height and this is true the world over regardless of diet unless you are actually malnourished. Which I doubt any of us here are.
Matthew on 29/8/2007 at 08:24
Quote Posted by D'Arcy
I don't drink them a lot, but between sugar and aspartame in a soda, I'll take sugar anytime.
A couple of the medical people in my family basically banned aspartame and acesulfame K from their house, so I tend to follow their lead without necessarily knowing
why they didn't like it.
D'Arcy on 29/8/2007 at 11:02
Quote Posted by Matthew
A couple of the medical people in my family basically banned aspartame and acesulfame K from their house, so I tend to follow their lead without necessarily knowing
why they didn't like it.
The possible effects on your brain aren't very pleasant. Also, I'd rather not voluntarily give my body a source of stuff like formaldehyde or formic acid. I don't know what happens in other coutries, but here they don't even clearly admit that there's aspartame in something. They just write in the label 'Contains a source of phenylalanine' instead.
BEAR on 29/8/2007 at 13:56
I didn't read the article but I believe the thought of most people contradicts what people seem to think.
I and most other people don't thing the government should tell people what to eat, what is sad is that so much food that is bad for people is the most highly marketed, lobbied food available. Fast food is everywhere and marketed right at kids.
The free market cant regulate everything, diet has more of an impact on people than almost any other factor, which makes sense when you think about it. Have you people been into a wal-mart lately? Its the most depressing fucking place on earth, everyone is fat and low rent, its just awful. These are the people that get marketed to, selling them 1 dollar cheese burgers and garbage candy.
Its not that these types of food shouldn't be allowed to exist, its that its EVERYWHERE, you have to try fairly hard to really eat good and its a lot more expensive than the garbage you can buy for 2 dollars at McDonald's.
This is hardly rigorous research, but I was always interested in the portion of Super size Me when he went to the various schools and then went to the school for 'problem children' and saw the difference. Granted they were probably run differently, but god damn every place should be fucking run like that. Instead companies lobby to the government to supply sub-par shit food to our children at not really that great of a price, and at what cost. Its no wonder our schools are overrun with fat stupid irritating little fucks.
Yes, anyone in America can eat good but anyone can see which side has all the advantages, nobody profits overwhelmingly off of people eating good and being healthy but people make billions of them not.
fett on 29/8/2007 at 17:10
Quote Posted by D'Arcy
The possible effects on your brain aren't very pleasant. Also, I'd rather not voluntarily give my body a source of stuff like formaldehyde or formic acid. I don't know what happens in other coutries, but here they don't even clearly admit that there's aspartame in something. They just write in the label 'Contains a source of phenylalanine' instead.
My wife is studying all this stuff in Nutrition and Microbiology right now (she's in nursing college) and was stunned at the amounts of these chemicals that have to be injected into lab rats to cause any type of reaction at all. It seems that you'd have to ingest several gallons of raws aspartame daily for weeks on end to cause the kind of damage everyone warns of. She says that essentially it would be impossible for someone with normal eating habits (several times a day as opposed to all day every day) to harm themselves with either formic acid or aspartame.
SubJeff on 29/8/2007 at 18:03
Injecting things into animals is not the same as ingesting them over years. Animal models aren't perfect, which is why you get safety trials for drugs in humans. Besides, I know there was some published research a few years ago suggesting a link between aspartame and brain cancers.
Weren't we talking about getting fat?
D'Arcy on 29/8/2007 at 18:13
Yes fett, but you're probably talking about short term effects. In the long term (meaning, if I spend my whole life consuming it) I don't know what will the effect be. And I prefer not to take any risks. Furthermore, the combined effect of aspartic acid and phenylalanine (both products of aspartame break down) on brain cells doesn't look very appealing to me (one being a neurotransmitter and the other having antidepressant properties). I studied a bit about aspartame back when I was in university, and since then I've stopped consuming it.
Also [conspiracy mode]would you trust Donald Rumsfeld with your food?[/conspiracy mode] ;)
