Thief13x on 28/8/2007 at 15:14
Here's an interesting angle...
I shamefully consider myself one of the pioneers of child obesity. Today I weight 170 lbs at 71 inchest tall, but 7 years ago and over a foot shorter at 13 years old, I weighed 220 lbs. Here's the kickers...A) I always ate at home (NEVER ate fast food), B) my mom always cooked lean (drained meet, veggies, etc) and C) I was on the local swim team (yep, I heard every fat joke in the book while sporting a speedo). I had been over weight since about 8 or 9.
Why was I so overweight? well, I found the anwser when I dropped 50 pounds in a little over a year. I was eating a LOT of food and I was eating within 4 hours of going to bed. BAD BAD BAD, it changed my life, it really did, and it had nothing to do with corn syrup or sugar. I'm not saying those arn't problematic because they obviously are, and today I drink nothing besides water and black coffee every morning (okay okay and 10-20 beers on the weekends:D). On rare occasions, I might pop a mt. dew for the caffeen (honestly averaging maybe 1 soda/2 months.
Ironically, I do hit up fast food maybe two or 3 times a week, but it's moderate enough that I don't gain weight.
fett on 28/8/2007 at 15:16
Quote Posted by LesserFollies
If the government wants to end obesity, it needs to ban, outright, advertising for fast food and soft drinks the same way it banned liquor ads on TV. That's who made this country fat: McDonald's and Pepsi. They can talk all they want about nutrition and exercise but until people stop seeing ads for huge gooey hamburgers and sugary drinks every time they turn around, we're just going to get bigger and bigger. One local chain really makes me mad: Rally's, whose commercials for their ENORMOUS fat-and-salt-laden burgers cheerfully remind us that "You Gotta Eat! You Gotta Eat!" Thank you for reminding Americans to eat; we're all so in danger of forgetting and wasting away.
I agree, BUT I watched liquor commercials for years and I'm not an alcoholic, just the same as I see Burger King billboards all the time and I'm not overweight. I think it just comes down to self-control. Meth is available to me if I want it, but I choose not to buy it because of the long term effects. Same with french fries.
What cracks me up is how the fast food joints try to make more 'healthy' food available - low carb wraps at Arby's, Apple dippers and juice instead of fries and coke in the McD's kids meal and so on. If they were so fucking concerned with kid's health, they'd make that stuff the staple of kids meals. Arby's would stop putting their beef on fluffed sugar enriched buns and make wraps the standard. OH WATE - no one wants that stuff.
Remember the Atkins craze? The smaller burger chains were shitting themselves because Atkins = no bread. Suddenly they all started offering alternatives. If people would quit buying shit food, there would be no market for it. Back to supply and demand. Guess why they no longer make 8-tracks and cassette tapes? The majority of Americans decided about 4 years ago that trans-fat = death and quit buying products that contained it. Walk down the chip and cookie aisle and note how many BIG name brands now sport shiny 'No Trans Fat!' labels on their product. It cost them more to use something else but they ditched that shit when it hit them in the wallet.
Quote Posted by Thief13x
Why was I so overweight? well, I found the anwser when I dropped 50 pounds in a little over a year. I was eating a LOT of food and I was eating within 4 hours of going to bed. BAD BAD BAD, it changed my life, it really did, and it had nothing to do with corn syrup or sugar.
Granted - it's not always that stuff. My wife was overweight for years and had constant skin problems. She cut yeast out of her diet - dropped the weight and cleared the skin in a matter of weeks. You gotta know your body. I can drink Mt. Dew like nobody's business and the caffeine doesn't bother me (even with a heart problem), but a single glass of tea makes me twitch all night. The caffeine is different somehow - I don't understand it but I listen to my body.
Peanuckle on 28/8/2007 at 15:30
Government should not intervene in the daily lives of the people on such an intimate level. Thats all I think about the government part.
On the food part, there's a great reason to watch what you eat. Awhile back, there was a woman who's name was, IIRC, Hetty Green. She was known as "The Witch of Wall Street." She was one of the first woman millionaires. Her diet? Oatmeal. Milk. Cheap, nutritious, non-fattening. Save your money, get healthy, get rich.
jay pettitt on 28/8/2007 at 15:33
That's all well and good fett, but you're a grown up. The odds stack up against self control if you've been groomed by junk food marketing from a tender age. Indeed, the chances of market forces freely coming into play are drastically reduced when marketing gets involved.
Rug Burn Junky on 28/8/2007 at 15:34
Quote Posted by fett
Federal intervention concerning food intake is very Orsen Wells to me.
Would that be Citizen Kane Orson Welles, or Touch of Evil Orson Welles?
Stitch on 28/8/2007 at 15:54
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
piled-high mediocre food
Yeah, the food in San Fran that we sampled really wasn't all that great, was it? I found both Fisherman's Grotto and the joint in Chinatown to be fairly lackluster. The best dinner I probably had was the special of the day from that yuppie Italian place we ate on Thursday, although the copious beer (and cute waitress) might have sweetened the deal.
Breakfast with RBJ was also so good I ate the plate garnish; my hangover was no match.
Rug Burn Junky on 28/8/2007 at 16:21
Agreed whole heartedly on all counts.
Except that yuppie Italian dinner would have been so much better if Scots hadn't STOLEN MY MEDIUM RARE LAMB T-BONE. I heard it was fantastic.
Medium well. pfft.
fett on 28/8/2007 at 18:30
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
Would that be Citizen Kane Orson Welles, or Touch of Evil Orson Welles?
Or that other George guy with the 'Or' in his name*
And bad form bringing the SanFran trip into another thread. We're all jealous of the drunkenness and anal sex. WHY CAN'T WE EVER MEET IN ARKANSAS. ANAL SEX
AND GOATS. :mad:
*I can't be arsed to remember such things. My brain is full trying to memorize the titles of all the Scrubs episodes.D'Juhn Keep on 28/8/2007 at 20:27
Quote Posted by Thief13x
I was eating within 4 hours of going to bed. BAD BAD BAD
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https://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=755705)
This seems to be pretty comprehensively debunked. Are you sure you didn't just drink lots of fizzy drinks
fett on 28/8/2007 at 21:27
I've seen that debunked before too, but I have experienced massive water retention from eating late at night. That caused me to bloat up a bit and feel like crap all day. When I cut out the late night cereal, ice cream, and insane amounts of Irish whiskey at night, I woke up feeling better. In retrospect, maybe it was just about the Irish whiskey...
