Luthien on 25/6/2013 at 09:42
Some people have done absolutely amazig speedruns lately and recorded everything:
TG
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgbYsH-I8Oc&list=PLGZHWqM4jL3QOQelX-vD87JMnkIpRshu0)
TMA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXUl0YCZeUs&list=PLGZHWqM4jL3TSNj4r_Tanqv3wjTMtv5dU)
And there's a lot more if you search for thief and speedrun. I especially like the one for Return to the Cathedral in TG in 24 seconds, and that without blocking doors. :D The dedication of these people is truly amazing, I never had the nerve to practice missions for days until every move is perfect. The best time for completing TG has been cut down from my old ~53 minutes to below 36 minutes using ever dirty little trick you can think of. :wot:
I'm happy that there are young enthusiasts that have picked up the work of us oldtimers (who explored every little detail of the missions and the engine), and perfected gameplay to new heights never seen before.
voodoo47 on 25/6/2013 at 13:12
well, hate to spoil the party, but he's not going to be such a happy engine exploiter when he switches to NewDark.
Luthien on 25/6/2013 at 15:11
Tell me one reason, why speed thieves should use gameplay breaking mods. *shrug* TDP/TG/TMA lives _because of_ the many, many peculiarities of the engine. When they get "fixed", you get a borig result like T3.
Anyway, the sheer dedication and gaming skill is impressive, and I enjoy that. Sadly, there were only a few people with that dedication to take thief playing to the extreme ten years back. :)
voodoo47 on 25/6/2013 at 15:40
one new graphics card later, he won't really have a choice.
Luthien on 25/6/2013 at 15:44
Nonsense, I've been running Thief unmodded since it was released. Just minor patching is required.
And if that should eventually fail, modern machines are well able to run it in Software mode.
voodoo47 on 25/6/2013 at 15:52
sw mode will have serious issues with FPS limiting, I believe, but yeah, that will always work via VM, so I guess I will have to agree with that.
anyway, the original hw mode is dead/unusable soon - give it a year.
Luthien on 25/6/2013 at 15:57
Yes you're right, software mode has serious trouble with FPS. It runs too fast.
Have you actually tried it before telling others how it works?
voodoo47 on 25/6/2013 at 16:01
sw mode? it's been a while. was seriously surprised by the heat/energy distortion effects back then. as for the hw mode, dx6/7 support is not getting better in the gpu drivers, and once MS drops the old api support from windows, the original hw renderer will be a dead fish swimming in brine.
Luthien on 25/6/2013 at 16:14
Anyway, I understand that your real message is "I'm not interested in Thief speedruns." So be it. I am, though, as in any other ways to take the games and the engine to the extreme.
skacky on 25/6/2013 at 17:01
I've been trying to replicate some of the tricks he used (like the sword/blackjack fall thing) but yeah, impossible to do in NewDark.
