SubJeff on 21/4/2009 at 07:08
And gravity's units incorporate seconds so yeah its affected by time.
Phatose you may be right but Vivian's idea is feasible because on the planet they are not traveling at the speed of light. Makes more sense than air pressure bs.
In fact in the Aliens universe they never seem to travel very fast, hence the need for the long sleeps.
mothra on 21/4/2009 at 07:46
in alien2 dir.cut you can see ripley being shown a recording of her then already dead daughter since she has been in hypersleep for that long after escaping the nostromo as the sole survivor.
Rogue Keeper on 21/4/2009 at 08:03
It was never properly explained though, why Ripley was in deep space for 70+ years, most likely the course of Narcissus was wrong, but then it's almost unbelievable they managed to find her. I presume normal interstellar travels should last only few weeks. In Aliens, they expected help to arrive in 17 days or so.
mothra on 21/4/2009 at 08:21
they tell here that a deep salvage team found her by pure luck and she's been drifting on the "edges" of space. but keep in mind that explanation comes from the slimey corporate guy so I suspect they DESPERATELY tried to find her all the years since Weiland Yutani knew about the Aliens all along (from part1 onwards). this was in the "normal" cut as well, pretty much one of the first scenes after ripley being found and put on the outer space med facility near earth
Sulphur on 21/4/2009 at 08:24
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Phatose you may be right but Vivian's idea is feasible because on the planet they are not traveling at the speed of light. Makes more sense than air pressure bs.
In fact in the Aliens universe they never seem to travel very fast, hence the need for the long sleeps.
If I'm not wrong, Vivian's accelerometers only measure the local gravitational field of the planet at the current spot they're sitting at.
The problem with the gravity vector is that it's just the one vector. It'll point at whichever bit of earth nearby has the most effect on the field. It doesn't resolve into a map of the other things that have a lesser effect on local gravity.
Of course, I might be talking absolute bollocks, considering geophysics was never my strongest suit. :D
EvaUnit02 on 21/4/2009 at 08:40
Quote Posted by mothra
but keep in mind that explanation comes from the slimey corporate guy so I suspect they DESPERATELY tried to find her all the years since Weiland Yutani knew about the Aliens all along
Yes, they were Mad About Her.
Rogue Keeper on 21/4/2009 at 08:43
Quote Posted by mothra
but keep in mind that explanation comes from the slimey corporate guy so I suspect they DESPERATELY tried to find her all the years since Weiland Yutani knew about the Aliens all along (from part1 onwards). this was in the "normal" cut as well, pretty much one of the first scenes after ripley being found and put on the outer space med facility near earth
The theory of W-Y knowing about Aliens has it's serious flaws though. Yes, Nostromo had its special order to examine signal coming from then uncharted LV 426 (or 'Acheron' if you will, which at least in Alien was a big planetoid), but while Rip was floating in space, the W-Y colonized the planet and Hadley Hope was sitting on the planet for decades, long enough for W-Y to discover the derelict spaceship. But they didn't found it. Barely believable, almost absurd, since they knew about the signal coming from the planet long time ago - but there you go. Only after Rip told the corporation what happened, Burke got suspisious and sent somebody from Hadley Hope to examine the alleged location of the derelict spaceship. This is obvious in both cuts of Aliens.
mothra on 21/4/2009 at 09:42
i think there is cameron and the studio to blame for, wanting to make a franchise out of it and not thinking everything through after alien1. sequels, even as good as Aliens tend to have those plot holes.
Rogue Keeper on 21/4/2009 at 12:15
If pulse rifle rounds and acid burn holes in the plot, few do care. :p
june gloom on 21/4/2009 at 15:17
Quote Posted by mothra
i think there is cameron and the studio to blame for, wanting to make a franchise out of it and not thinking everything through after alien1. sequels, even as good as Aliens tend to have those plot holes.
Do you have a source to back that up with or are you just spouting bullshit-
again?
