Vivian on 1/3/2017 at 15:29
"How unlikely is it that there would be domesticated wheat on this planet that is presumably light years from earth?" Yeah its still dumb as fuck. Oh well, the monster looks pretty sweet.
Kolya on 1/3/2017 at 15:39
Aliens: Catcher in the Rye
Renault on 1/3/2017 at 16:28
I'm sort of intrigued as to how they will tie this into Prometheus. As bad as Prometheus was, it seems cheap to not finish off the story. Last we saw, Shaw and David were headed to the Engineer's planet. Now I just read this:
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Waterston plays Daniels, third-in-rank and the chief Terraformist above the Covenant on a Noah’s Ark-like trip - everyone aboard is a couple - to colonise a new planet. Along the way, the crew discover a distress signal of human origin, and decide to investigate. Things go quickly south, and Daniels soon sees the crew around her getting picked off one by one.
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Fassbender will return as David, the unknowable robot who has been stuck on an alien planet with Shaw (Noomi Rapace) for 10 years following the events of Prometheus. We are told little about David’s activities other than his humanity has grown more advanced in his time away from human maintenance. “He’s more sort of engaged in all sorts of human characteristics,” says Fassbender. “Insecurity, ego, rage might come out of insecurity, things like pride, envy, I saw a bit of that. He likes to feel important, so pride.”
So I guess we're to assume that on the way to the Engineer's planet, David and Shaw crashed landed on the Covenant planet, and couldn't escape? As the article mentioned, the distress signal is interesting because it's so similar to the first Alien movie. So maybe it too will end up being a warning too.
Questions for answering - What is Shaw up to, and/or is she still alive? How did the Alien get to this planet? What's David really up to?
heywood on 1/3/2017 at 17:32
I don't care at all what happened to David and Shaw. Prometheus was SO bad, it would have been better to just forget about it. Make a real prequel to Alien, or better yet make a new Alien story that is independent from both.
The franchise should have ended with Alien 3. It was a somewhat mediocre film that didn't live up to the hype, but there was something about its grimness that was appealing and I was happy to see Ripley kill herself at the end; it brought closure as if the studio had recognized that they had taken this far enough and it was time to call it quits.
Then came Resurrection, which I skipped because franchise reboots are rarely any good. I eventually did catch it on TV sometime later and wow it sucked. Who hires Joss Whedon to write horror? The man can't do anything but camp. And the casting was almost as poor as the writing. I wouldn't have believed it could get worse, but it did. I watched Prometheus on a long haul flight with nothing better to do, but I still wish I had those two hours back. I could have slept or read the airline's magazine or something.
Kolya on 1/3/2017 at 21:07
I think I remember reading that Sigourney Weaver was the one who pressured for her character's death in Alien 3. I also thought it was a good last chapter for the franchise (except for some schlocky CGI) that hearkened back to the first film's claustrophobia and lack of weapons after Aliens had been a military show. It had some very memorable scenes (Bishop on the garbage pile, "rumour control", Ellen falling in love with someone as fucked up as herself). And of course Newt had to die. Ripley gunning down aliens while clutching a child on a permanent basis would have been ridiculous, Newt becoming the next alien killer would have been morally dubious and distasteful. So what's supposed to happen with her? This way her death added to the desperate mood of the film.
rachel on 1/3/2017 at 21:29
I like Alien 3 a lot, always feels like I'm the only one. From the boldness of killing off the kid to the different alien incubated by a dog, I've always loved how it took from its predecessors and went sideways with it with gusto. It made a trilogy in which all components were of completely different genres, with only the conflict between the alien and Ripley as a common thread.
Vivian on 1/3/2017 at 22:00
The longer edit of alien 3 is boss. I always liked it. It's got Mr Rotwieller from Bottom in it!
icemann on 2/3/2017 at 05:29
I'd have prefered a more action oriented Alien 3, more akin to Aliens than Alien. The original Alien is excellent sure, but Aliens was where things just hit a new scale entirely.
It's not like they didn't have good scripts to go from either, with the dark horse comics + books to choose from which had Earth being totally overrun with the xenos, and humanity taking the Earth back. Now that I'd have paid to see.
Thirith on 2/3/2017 at 05:32
I've always liked Alien 3, even in the original cut. There are flaws, to be sure, but it's immensely atmospheric and IMO has a great cast for what it's trying to do. The main weakness is that the VFX aren't really up to what the film is aiming for, but even that is only really bad (rather than just not as good as it should be) in a few sequences.
And I've always liked that the series did something very different in each instalment, rather than trying to capture past glories.
Vivian on 2/3/2017 at 10:51
Yeah, which is a tradition that prometheus arguably upheld.
