mxleader on 2/2/2024 at 02:11
So what are your thoughts about AI now that it's being blamed for some layoffs and undoubtedly going to cause thousands upon thousands of job losses in the years to come?
PigLick on 2/2/2024 at 02:26
If an AI can do them, then maybe some of those jobs are useless, busy work.
demagogue on 2/2/2024 at 02:28
I have to think end of this road is Universal Income.
The more efficient the economy gets, the more UI appears to become sustainable & economically rational, and AI taking up increasing chunks of the human resources space, in combination with the next stage in globalization -- a heap of agricultural economies industrialize as industrial economies move into the information economy, where AI push costs to a minimum for consumers while maximizing tax revenue -- may push efficiency further than anything else.
My thought about that is that that's a good thing.
Nothing staves off labour exploitation better than choice in the labour market while still getting all of your basic needs met whether you enter the labour market or not, all while still maintaining a basic liberal capitalist system, so basic price signalling and market forces still work like they're supposed to and don't go berserk like in a command economy brand of communism. An economy needs to be incredibly efficient for that to work, and AI is a critical piece to that, I think.
mxleader on 2/2/2024 at 03:17
I see intellectualism under attack so often today from various groups that beat the war drum about how pointless university is. AI will put the last nail in the coffin of universities in the coming decades. There will be AI programs running nearly everything, including the creation of more advanced AI. All publications and music will be written by machines and approved by the party. Forced labor will be the only occupation for most people. Human creativity will be destroyed by economic efficiencies. There will be no point to living life.
DuatDweller on 2/2/2024 at 09:40
Well about university titles, you can have one in Italy but they ask you to have experience in the field before they give you a job, and you can't have experience at all because you don't have a job.... its a vicious circle. That and the saturation of titles of the same kind, is the death of the job market, long before AI.
Solution, move somewhere else and get a job.
About the AI, I was watching some Tesla cars going nuts when on self drive causing accidents, if that is what the AI thinks is good driving, I'll stay clear of self driving cars.
Starker on 2/2/2024 at 12:07
No 阿姨 is going to take my job.
PigLick on 2/2/2024 at 12:56
Nor mine, because it is impossible until AI becomes physically autonomous
heywood on 2/2/2024 at 13:56
AI will take some of our jobs, but don't worry, it will create more. Just think about how many job functions were eliminated by mainframe computers, and how much personal computing and the internet has changed your life in the last 30 years. Then think about how much AI is already everywhere in your life, including where you're not consciously aware of it. We're in the middle of the revolution already.
Sulphur on 2/2/2024 at 14:06
The blue sky ideal is that AI will take all the busywork away from our lives, leaving us to do the more interesting decision-based stuff (this is the pitch most corporates have used and are using, and in fact will use, to explain how RPA and, shortly, AI bring about FTE reductions in certain work queues; the justification being you upskill yourself now to do the things that require you to engage your skills at a more involved level up the chain). What that is is subject to whatever the variables in play evolve to; I know we're already looking at AI to help with facilitating instructional design and deployment at the low-level, so claims of it destroying education are far-fetched at this juncture.
We may eventually reach WALL-E world, or something worse, but that's not happening today, or tomorrow. A decade or two from now will be an interesting place to exist in, though.
Azaran on 2/2/2024 at 14:44
Quote Posted by Sulphur
The blue sky ideal is that AI will take all the busywork away from our lives, leaving us to do the more interesting decision-based stuff
Yeah this is what we used to think decades ago, but AI got too smart. Now for that to become closer to possible, we'll need to come up with fully functional androids that can take human menial labour (retail, unskilled positions, etc).
Then, like Dema said, universal basic income.
The problem with the latter is the planet is overpopulated. And even if that becomes possible, we'll need laws to prevent profiteering. Once universal basic income becomes a thing, I can see predatory landlords jacking up their rent far beyond the basic income people receive, and big companies raising prices to take a bigger chunk from people.
(I think the housing crisis can be fixed by governments forcibly allotting OWNED affordable housing for people; there's enough unaffordable condos out there that can be expropriated from developers and given to people who need them, but that's another topic, sorry to digress)
Or, once AI becomes smarter than humans in every way, we ask them for solutions and see what it proposes.
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