kryss on 13/10/2001 at 21:08
Wow! A whole YEAR later, and all of a sudden my inobox fills up with replies again! Good to see the Deus Ex community is still active!
Kinda scary to think about this game in times like these.
Fone Bone 2001 on 16/10/2001 at 00:53
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Originally posted by Rubel:
<STRONG>Yeah, as far as knocking people out counting as killing them...after the beginning of the game made such a big deal about whether or not JC actually kills people, I was a bit disappointed when zapping Sandra's pimp or JoJo still resulted in conversations about how they're now dead. If I play for no civillian casualties as the game has pressured me into doing, I'd like it to acknowledge it...</STRONG>
Yeah, I know! When I was escaping from UNATCO HQ on my last time through the game, I shot Manderley with a tranq dart. He fell over and when I highlighted his body it said "UNCONSCIOUS". However, when I was talking to Walton Simons, I said:
"Take a look at Manderley's dead body. Consider that my resignation."
I was thinking, "What's the deal with that? I didn't KILL him!"
And then, when I was in Hell's Kitchen for the last time, a public computer terminal had a bulletin about how I was wanted and it said that I had murdered Joseph Manderley.
Or course, the bulletin ALWAYS says you kill Manderley AND Lebedev, whether you really killed either of them or not.
Airbag_Victim on 24/10/2001 at 18:32
Gotta love WATCHMEN, eh Rorschach?
Rug Burn Junky on 26/10/2001 at 00:46
{soapbox}
Just a thought for the future - don't give away too much of the spoiler in the title to the thread, huh?
I mean, I was greeted with this on the front page of the forums - I shouldn't have to avoid that just to keep away from spoilers.
{/soapbox}
{cranky} You rat bastard {/cranky}
;)
lunatic96 on 27/10/2001 at 20:35
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Originally posted by Denise:<br /><strong>If you don't kill Navarre in the plane or in the subway, she comes to visit you in your jail cell just before Daedalus springs you. After the escape, UNATCO HQ is under lockdown (as it always is at that point, actually) and Anna is guarding the main door. Alex won't relenquish the key to the door until you deal with her as he's scared of her retaliation. So at one of these three points you must kill Anna or you cannot proceed (the door in question is INF/INF, can't be picked or blown up, and Alex is invulnerable so you can't loot it off of him). The message from Gunther about being unable to forgive the killing of Agent Navarre does make a great deal more sense with this last option, but fighting her in the tight, brightly lit corridors of UNATCO is a pain and so is getting her killphrase from the two separate computers. <br />[This message has been edited by Denise (edited March 05, 2001).]</strong><hr></blockquote><br />You can get the key to the door by knocking out an mib person in the mj12 place and looting their body. so you don't have to kill anna if ya don't wanna. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="cool.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/mad2.gif" border="0" alt="[Grr]" /> <img src="graemlins/eww.gif" border="0" alt="[Eww...]" /> <img src="graemlins/sly.gif" border="0" alt="[Sly]" /> <img src="graemlins/sly.gif" border="0" alt="[Sly]" /> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
AxTng1 on 30/12/2003 at 00:17
There is another way to deal with this - ghosting.
As stated in IT-HE.com's Deus Ex anti-walkthough (
http://www.it-he.org/deus.htm) Sunglasses at Night, 'we can have our cake and eat it, too.'
Inline Image:
http://www.it-he.org/deus/anna.jpgAnna the Frightned GhostThis involves setting the game on medium difficulty and having 'trained' demolition skills.
For more details and the funniest walkthru I've ever seen, explore IT-HE.com - they also have the hacker's guide to sin.
Other DX characters can be ghosted as well - I have got a savegame of Walton Simons swimming around transparently in the Pasadena Greasel lab and Gunther running away like a coward from JC's Templar Knight Might.
Cyborg on 30/12/2003 at 10:44
It is actually possible to escape Gunther after the subway station, but yes, he will eventually get you.
You can escape by using some strenght aug and possibly the jumping aug(whatever it was called). Run left from the subway enterance, right throught the big metal crates.
It is even possible to see Jock's helicopter there, atleast in some version of the game.
And, you can play the game without killing Anna. It will give you a slightly differend conversation on the cathedral level. There are two differend conversations, than the normal, depending on the rescue of Gunther on the Liberty Statue.
The way to get through the door is to hurt Anna just exactly the amount that she will try to run away. She will most probably run through the locked door, and voila, theres your escape.
Garret_729 on 30/12/2003 at 12:58
I always kill Anna in the plane, with Ballistic Armor and Assualt Guns.
oneof4 on 3/2/2004 at 02:36
Hey AxTng1 , I've tried the "ghosting" thing with Anna on the plane, but can't seem to make it happen. I've tried moving the mine around on the wall to match the picture in the walkthrough, but every time it blows her to bits.
AxTng1 on 12/2/2004 at 22:25
For the ghosting to work, you must be playing the level for the first time (No legending!) and be exactly 'trained' in demolition. Anna must also have 100% health at the start. All characters can ghost, but Gunther can be tricky.
