dickivy on 30/7/2010 at 19:50
I'm going nuts here. I'm not a power user so I'm stumped.
I loaded T1, T2, and T3. Now I want to do the patches but winzip says access denied perhaps administrator authorization is required. I'm running as admin. How do I unzip and install the patches for thief?
I'm running win 7 home premium, intel i7 quad core
Thanks for any help.
Bjossi on 30/7/2010 at 20:20
Being a new Windows 7 user I have gotten into such troubles awfully often myself. Sometimes the 'Run as admin' option in the right-click menu works (tried it?) but not always, for example the VLC Player installer gave me trouble.
I really do not understand the permissions/security bullshit, is Microsoft's idea of security to simply tie the hands of the user and cripple the usability of the operating system? "Hey guys, I know how to make Windows safe! Let's not allow anyone to use it!".
So I did like many people do who had foreheads hot enough to melt iron; disabled UAC altogether. Holy crap, I can actually DO STUFF in my computer now! I really did not want to do it, since UAC is a pretty darn robust security layer, but due to the (to my knowledge) complete absence of any advanced settings for it (all I can find is a single slider) as well as the UAC having goldfish memory of what actions you take with specific programs, not to mention it confuses the hell out of my 9 years of using XP or the fact you are not a real admin of your PC unless you do some fiddling around, I really didn't have much choice. Until I do my homework and read about this stuff I will just put faith in the AV protection.
So yeah, disable UAC, at least temporarily. It shouldn't be too dangerous if you are good at the internet and have real-time malware protection.
dickivy on 31/7/2010 at 11:56
Quote Posted by Bjossi
Being a new Windows 7 user I have gotten into such troubles awfully often myself. Sometimes the 'Run as admin' option in the right-click menu works (tried it?) but not always, for example the VLC Player installer gave me trouble.
I really do not understand the permissions/security bullshit, is Microsoft's idea of security to simply tie the hands of the user and cripple the usability of the operating system? "Hey guys, I know how to make Windows safe! Let's not allow anyone to use it!".
So I did like many people do who had foreheads hot enough to melt iron; disabled UAC altogether. Holy crap, I can actually DO STUFF in my computer now! I really did not want to do it, since UAC is a pretty darn robust security layer, but due to the (to my knowledge) complete absence of any advanced settings for it (all I can find is a single slider) as well as the UAC having goldfish memory of what actions you take with specific programs, not to mention it confuses the hell out of my 9 years of using XP or the fact you are not a
real admin of your PC unless you do some fiddling around, I really didn't have much choice. Until I do my homework and read about this stuff I will just put faith in the AV protection.
So yeah, disable UAC, at least temporarily. It shouldn't be too dangerous if you are good at the internet and have real-time malware protection.
That was my thught. Where can I get the info to do that?
Yandros on 31/7/2010 at 12:23
Have you installed Thief under Program Files (or Program Files (x86) on a 64bit system)? If so, I highly recommend you install somewhere else, like \Games\Thief 2 or something like that. Vista and Win7 lock down that folder tightly and it's hard to modify those areas. You might try this before disabling UAC.
Bjossi on 1/8/2010 at 01:59
Regarding Program Files vs. custom folder, to my great surprise that actually did not seem to make much of a difference.
I was smart enough to keep all my stuff away from the OS drive, and focused on choosing tidy and self-contained software for my common needs, which made the transition to Win7 lightning fast and painless. There were only a few poorly designed diarrhea programs (pooping random data all over the filesystem and registry) that I had to re-download and re-install.
But even though I install (almost) all programs in G:\Programs instead of C:\Program Files, Windows still bitched about permissions whenever these programs wanted to write data to their local folder. What did the trick was to move those files to the AppData\Roaming area in C:\Users, which is not always possible because not many programs allow the user to control where the user data is located/interacted with. This was of course before I turned off UAC, I could probably move the user files back to the local folder and Windows would not bitch anymore.
Maybe making a "proper" admin account fixes this, or changing settings that I have yet to find, but the quickest fix by far is to turn off UAC. I take self-containment over mess any day.
dickivy on 2/8/2010 at 21:55
Thanks for all your help on this. I found a thing in the control panel that allowed me to just move a slider and gain full control. That's the good news. The bad news is T1 and T3 still don't work. T2 is fine thanks to tafferpatcher. I'm having so much fun, I could throw up. LOL
