Achievement:

Garrett Jenkins: Run through the entire mission, lure all the guards, get the mission objective and flee, without knocking out anyone.

Grand Thiaf Auto: Kill all the pidgeons in The City.

Left 4 Taffer: Kill all the Zombies in The City.

Need for Loot - Underground: Use a Speed Potion and win a race against a Keeper. (Unlocks: Customized Hood)

Hot Coffee: Complete the naughty minigame with any lady in The City.

The Keeper Scrolls IV - Oblivion: Jailbreak from Pavelock Prison with the aid of the Emperor.

Moss Effect: Finish the game with all companions in your party.

Thiefout New Vegas - Drop a hundred mines in the TNT warehouse and hide yourself in the Hammerite Vault before it all detonates.

The achievements above may require that you have Nerd skill over 80 to be understood.

What do achievements in console games even do? I know that on PC they're completely worthless. Are they worthless on consoles too?


But serious "achievements" (not in the negative definition of them) for Thief could be:

-Mr. Sandman: Finish a mission on Expert difficulty and knock out all AIs without being detected and without bodies being discovered.
-Ghost: Finish a mission on Expert difficulty withouth dealing any damage to humans and without being detected by humans.
-Magpie: Finish a mission on Expert difficulty and steal every piece of loot.
-Necrophobia: Finish an undead-themed mission on Expert difficulty without dealing any damage or being detected.
-You're doing it wrong: Finish a mission and kill everything that can be killed, in combat. No stealth kills are allowed, every AI you kill needs to be aware of you.
-Gold Ghost: Finish a mission on Expert difficulty without dealing any damage, without being detected, and also steal every piece of loot.
-Inside job: Same as Ghost, but you must relock all the doors you have unlocked and return all the keys you've stolen to their original positions.
-Egotrip: Infiltrate (mission location) through the front door without being detected.
-For a rainy day: Finish a mission on Expert difficulty after puchasing nothing from the loadout.
-Time for that vacation: Finish the game on Expert difficulty, without purchasing anything.

I would qualify this under the category of unnecessarily annoying achievements. I liked Plat's idea for making it a per mission thing - this way the player who's going after the achievements gets to sample all the playing styles, instead of simply being forced to do something for the 10+hour campaign.

On the xbox you can turn achievement notifications off, which is nice. You can also have everything just be listed as a "secret" achievement, and that way only the super hardcore achievement whores will have it spoiled for themselves. It would also be very appropriate to have all the achievements hidden from plain sight XD

Here's my 3 achievements:

What is locked... can be opened... = pick every lock on a level that can be opened without a key

What is hidden... can be found... = find every secret in a level

What is yours....can be mine. = find all the loot in a level (I prefer this over magpie for the complete reference)

And a another one to top em off

Might as well wear white... = assassinate a hammerite with a stab to the back

EDIT: oh, and two more

Conservationist = during one mission do not use a single piece of equipment

My badges:

Spider Spitter - must place any spider corpse into a burning cauldron

Victorian Revenge - Garrett must stab everyone in the right eye

Minute to Winit - Garrett must stack every 2 bottles he finds mouth to mouth

Sleepover - Must knock out all guards and stack them all on one bed

You Don't Know Jack - Garrett must discard his blackjack 1st THING on a level, then ghost it


Also, hidden upgrade fun!

1) BFT (Big Fracking Taffer) - this crossbow shoots a hundred arrows into everything in front of you!

2) A Shake-Weight - Garrett bobs it in front of the screen for a while and says, "I think it's working..."

3) Moss Boots - reduces all noise to a soft squishing (don't swim... they grow in water!!!)

4) Rebreather Frogbeast - by sticking this frogbeast to his face, Garrett never runs out of air!

5) 'Shroom Hood - a hood with glowing mushrooms all around it, he can see clearly in the dark all the time!

6) Auto-Bow - fires 5 arrows per second... reloads with cider drums filled with 100 rounds of ammo

The only achievements I could actually see promoted for Thief would be things like:


* Ghosting - NO impact on environments (probably level by level; sometimes you can't ghost)
* Max loot - don't miss a single coin... ever
* 100% Objectives - including all minor/hidden/optional ones
* Keeper Chronicler - read 100% of readables
* Keeper Cartographer - Explore 100% of every level. Build a map engine that allows Garret to make a map of where he's been, not just where he can go. He can fill in maps by exploring all accessible locations in a level.


That sort of thing

Appologies if anything is repeated:

Afraid of the Dark - Relight a torch

Nimble Hands - Pickpocket 10 bystanders


And for all time sake, some for the other games:

Thief: TDP

Acolyte - Complete the Keeper Training

Ghost - Don't get caught throught the entire playthrough on Expert

Master Thief - Complete the game with all loot, all secrets found, and not get caught on Expert mode. (isn't there already a mode called this?)

Bruce Campbell - Destroy 20 Zombies with fire arrows

Stealthy! - Complete a mission without making a sound.

Thief: MA

Blood Pact - Join Viktoria



T: DS

Enemy of none - Get both Faction status's as Allied

Ghosts of Soulforge - find and listen to the Viktrolas that play Karra's final words

The Vine - Ally with the Pagans

The Hammer - Ally with the Hammerites

Déjà vu - Finish the Game

The Fangirl - Listen to all of Marla's speeches.


Kinda went overboard here :D

"What is Locked... Can be Opened." - Pick 100 locks in the official missions.

"What is Hidden... Can be Found." - Find all the secrets in the game. (hidden passages, secret rooms, etc)

"What is Yours... Can be Mine." - Collect 100% of the loot in each level.

"Drive-By Looting" - pickpocket somebody riding on a carriage.

"ALL the Things!" - Collect 100% of the loot in a level.

"Concussion" - Knock out 100 enemies throughout the game. (This would make use of the in-game stats, so it wouldn't involve just repeating the same missions over and over for it)

"Silent, but Deadly" - Knock out three enemies with a single gas arrow.

"Water Shortage" - Complete a level without using any water arrows.

"Ghost" - Complete a level without alerting, knocking out, or killing anybody.

"Disciple of Lytha" - Complete the game without alerting, knocking out, or killing anybody... while also getting 100% of the loot... on the highest difficulty! Are you up to the challenge, taffer?

"Break a Lute, Get Some Loot" - Find the lucky coin inside the Mystic Lute of Whatever.

"The Floor is Hot Lava" - Move across ???'s living room... without touching the floor. (Challenging because the floor is soft, quiet carpeting... but the only way across would be on the hard tables and countertops)

"Close Call" - Get into a fight with three armed guards at once... and win.

"Garret be Nimble" - Jump over the row of lit candles in ???'s castle.

"That Shot Was Meant For Me" - Be detected by an archer, and avoid 6 arrows in a row

"How Pretentious Can You Get?" - Enter the Baron's throne room, without knocking out or alerting anyone.

"If I Had A Hammer" - Use the Hammerite smelter to create a warhammer.

"Don't Make Me Come Over There" - Be detected by an enemy from 50 feet away.

"Vandal" - Destroy 50 windows throughout the game.

"Glutton" - Eat 30 food items within 30 seconds.


"Sentimental Value" - Garrett has been forced to relocate several times. The City Watch confiscated most of his valuables... including his souvenirs. Get them back. (Keepsakes from previous games. Servant mask, Murus' Rosary, Viktoria's skin (a piece of bark), etc)

"MASTER THIEF" Complete all other achievements.

Lytha Style - Beat the game dealing zero damage while getting all loot and all pickpockets on Expert.

"river liver" - drink barney under the table at the tavern.
"bare essentials" - attend a fight at the bear pits
"an eye for an eye" replace your mech eye with that creepy one
"baffled bafford" break into baffords manor and return his scepter
"hammertime" - gain access to a hammerite invitation only gathering using a forged invite bearing the name MC Hammer
"psyence fiction" - teach a robot servant to dance gangnam style
"paws and effect" - knock out a guard by throwing the jacknalls paw at his head

Die X amount of times.
Fall from X feet. (Since it invariably means death anyway and I have seen this achievement in games)
Kill X people/guards.
Rob X citizens - Some players may have morals against stealing from poor people.
KO X guards/citizens. Denies a player the option of pure stealth (ghosting).

"The Builder's Judgment" - Kill a Haunt by throwing a hammer on him from a high distance

"little bow peep" - steal a copy of the designs for the city watch's bow upgrade from their armoury vault.


(the legend of the bow upgrade lives on, hehehehe)

:)

Achievement System: Achievements such as Ghost (don't get spotted once in a mission), Mister sandman (knockout 15 or more people in a single mission), and various others. Since this game will probably end up on Xbox 360, it will have achievements.

If they can be disabled / ignored, then I would be fine with them.