Starrfall on 1/6/2009 at 13:30
Quote Posted by AR Master
i have no opinion in the matter but I like when people protest any kind of move to restrict abortion by saying "we can't tell women what to do with their bodies!"
then have no problem with ticketing people for not wearing a seat belt
I know god its like every time I put on a seatbelt my body is fundamentally and painfully altered over a period of nine months which end in an extremely physically traumatic event that can last hours, break my tailbone, literally split my crotch open, and has a relatively good chance of killing me.
seatbelts :mad:
Vivian on 1/6/2009 at 13:39
And Deism is almost (almost) a sensible way to look at the world.
Morte on 1/6/2009 at 14:43
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
So a guy who murders people for a living was murdered.
Indeed. (
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=21986#comment-1250658) Who could have anything good to say about someone like that?
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In 1994 my wife and I found out that she was pregnant. The pregnancy was difficult and unusually uncomfortable but her doctor repeatedly told her things were fine. Sometime early in the 8th month my wife, an RN who at the time was working in an infertility clinic asked the Dr. she was working for what he thought of her discomfort. He examined her and said that he couldn’t be certain but thought that she might be having twins. We were thrilled and couldn’t wait to get a new sonogram that hopefully would confirm his thoughts. Two days later our joy was turned to unspeakable sadness when the new sonogram showed conjoined twins. Conjoined twins alone is not what was so difficult but the way they were joined meant that at best only one child would survive the surgery to separate them and the survivor would more than likely live a brief and painful life filled with surgery and organ transplants. We were advised that our options were to deliver into the world a child who’s life would be filled with horrible pain and suffering or fly out to Wichita Kansas and to terminate the pregnancy under the direction of Dr. George Tiller.
We made an informed decision to go to Kansas. One can only imagine the pain borne by a woman who happily carries a child for 8 months only to find out near the end of term that the children were not to be and that she had to make the decision to terminate the pregnancy and go against everything she had been taught to believe was right. This was what my wife had to do. Dr. Tiller is a true American hero. The nightmare of our decision and the aftermath was only made bearable by the warmth and compassion of Dr. Tiller and his remarkable staff. Dr. Tiller understood that this decision was the most difficult thing that a woman could ever decide and he took the time to educate us and guide us along with the other two couples who at the time were being forced to make the same decision after discovering that they too were carrying children impacted by horrible fetal anomalies. I could describe in great detail the procedures and the pain and suffering that everyone is subjected to in these situations. However, that is not the point of the post. We can all imagine that this is not something that we would wish on anyone. The point is that the pain and suffering were only mitigated by the compassion and competence of Dr. George Tiller and his staff. We are all diminished today for a host of reasons but most of all because a man of great compassion and courage has been lost to the world.
General Four on 1/6/2009 at 14:51
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Originally Posted at (
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/nation/story/69151.html)
"It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the 'lawlessness' which is spoken of in the Bible," it said. "Tiller is the concentration camp 'Mengele' of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgment upon our nation."
Allusions to Revelations AND Nazis? This gets better and better.
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Deism is almost sensible? It's saying God is very important but can't do anything. It's atheism lite!
Vivian on 1/6/2009 at 15:08
Like I said, almost sensible.
fett on 1/6/2009 at 15:13
[insert standard comment about Christian theology attracting emotionally and psychologically dysfunctional people, which will be opposed and forgotten until the next nutjob kills a kid because god told him to.]
Rinse. Repeat. :(
daniel on 1/6/2009 at 16:01
This is pathetic. Some people have become so ingrossed in being "anti-abortion" that they seem to have forgotten why they should have that opnion in the first place. Life is a gift that no person, group, or government has the right to take. It's degraded into a "us v.s. them" argument and this person's actions go right against what they should hold most dear.
On the other hand, has it been proven this doctor being an abortionist is the motive for the killing?
june gloom on 1/6/2009 at 16:34
My mother, who frequently swears she's not a fundie then turns around and says the most offensive bullshit I've ever heard, basically said that whoever killed the guy was not a "true Christian" but the guy "had it coming anyway."
uhh
I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the woman who said that evolution was invented by communists to destroy God.
Now you know why I'm a strict apatheist.