A small matter to discuss... - by Cobra189
Cobra189 on 9/12/2003 at 15:12
Uh...
Can't Ion Storm get sued or something if they put kids in their games? You know, like kids that are vulnerable to get injured and killed?
P.S.
And why do they have such bad attitudes?
Alneyan on 9/12/2003 at 18:54
Yes, I seem to recall something along these lines, but either Deus Ex came out before this rule was put into active duty, or the designers didn't heed this regulation. (I still don't understand why you shouldn't be able to kill a kid in a game, even when it is perfectly admissible to kill a thousand soldiers) As you cannot kill any kid in Fallout 2, which was out one year and a half before Deus Ex, I would believe the latter is more likely.
Hoopz on 9/12/2003 at 23:48
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As you cannot kill any kid in Fallout 2
I seem to recall killing many kiddies in Fallout and getting the "Child killer" karma thing. It was fun. Maybe they changed that in Fallout 2.
Why shouldn't I be able to splatter some little annoying virtual rugrats? Is this a post-Columbine thing of stupid soccermoms losing all common sense the moment the first spoiled brat plops out of them?
BlackCapedManX on 10/12/2003 at 01:24
That's bullshit, talk about freedom of speech/the press/whatever category of informational expression that games fall under. Now see, if you played as a kid, killing other kids, likely in school or something, then I could see the problem, but what if the game represents a 3rd world country in the middle of a war or something, is it then illegal to show kids being killed, possibly as a political statement? Goddamn but do I hate censorship.
the mighty parthos on 10/12/2003 at 06:10
I'll just wait for the kid killer Mega-Blood patch.:thumb:
Alneyan on 10/12/2003 at 06:26
Yes, they *were* brats in Fallout 1 you could kill, but I believe there aren't even children in Fallout 2, let alone children you can kill.
Iron Shadow on 10/12/2003 at 11:32
1) There are children you could kill in fallout 2. (i.e the little f**kers in the Den that stole items from you.)
2) Screw sensorship. The nightly news and 'save the starving children in the nation of so-so' ads contain more violence and pictures of child suffering and civilian death than any computer game I have ever bought or seen. The only thing it contains less of is government Propaganda.
Stupid thing about it is I can blow apart a swarm of civilian adults, kill animals, hack computers, steal money, walk around with that knife or perhaps rocket launcher in broad daylight, destroy property etc. but all 'they' seem to be worried about is the fact that I blew apart that poor child with the assault shotgun because he looked like a MJ12 terrorist and the fact that I did it in a computer game.
Would they rather me buy a gun and perform all of the above in real life? Yeah right!
3) Wouldn't you have a bad attitude if you are hungry, homeless and pushed around by tight-arsed cops?
Iron Shadow
GCD
Trhe on 11/12/2003 at 01:19
Fallout 2 only lacks kids in the European versions. All they did was remove the art files for the kids, which means they can _still_ steal from you in the Den; you just can't steal your item back. You'll also see mysterious floating text where there are invisible, unshootable kids running around. Try a search for "fallout 2 children patch" in a search engine.
Does this law _really_ have any effect in the US now? If so... ugh.
Randalor on 11/12/2003 at 06:15
*goes and shoots a kid in the eye with Bloody Mess trait, a sniper rifle, and max perception*
Nope, they still go explody.
Master Villain on 12/12/2003 at 00:29
It may be hard to swing it on Ion Storm though... The game never requires or rewards child killing.
Anyway, doesn't this become a moot point next to the genocide in Civilization games?
