Hewer on 7/12/2006 at 16:45
The photos you posted look very Thief-ish. Maybe try talking to the boys over at the Dark Mod and see what kind of resources they've got that you could use. You might have to join up and contribute to get access, but then everybody wins.
I can't talk for them at all, so it's just an idea.
PigLick on 7/12/2006 at 16:50
Quote Posted by Stitch
I realize my demands are naive and I'm basically asking for a solution that does all the work for me, but I'm trying to gauge what my options are at this point.
I would say your options are learn to fucking draw architecture already.
Rug Burn Junky on 7/12/2006 at 16:55
Quote Posted by Piglick re: fett
Stop being so mean to him
Quote Posted by Piglick re: Sypha
Stop being so mean to him
Quote Posted by Piglick re: Stitch
Fuck you, learn to draw
I knew the kinder, gentler, sensitive piglick wouldn't last long.
PigLick on 7/12/2006 at 16:58
well, shut my mouth
AR Master on 7/12/2006 at 17:05
Quote Posted by PigLick
well, shut my mouth
A historic moment when there weren't any cocks around Piglick for upwards of 2 minutes
AR Master on 7/12/2006 at 17:06
ur a cock ar
PigLick on 7/12/2006 at 17:10
that wasnt 2 minutes man
Vigil on 7/12/2006 at 17:11
Quote Posted by Stitch
I'm not quite sure what's earned this impotent display of obvious advice, but my comment to Gestalt was made simply to establish the basic level of drawing knowledge and skill I already possess. Not saying I'm the shit, but I already have a basic grasp of Drawing 101.
This whole thread is here because you're concerned your artistic skill comes up short in a particular area. If it's obvious advice to go hunt out a book on formal perspective then why haven't you?
It's been my experience that even working from models (be they nudes or photos or renders of buildings) you can still fuck simple things up by not having a firm grounding in theory. Bodily proportions wrong, inconsistent vanishing-points, etc., mistakes you make because your eye is focusing on details without measuring and checking them against the whole. That's why I suggested it would be better to grab a book and work your designs out from your head rather than relying on a 3D editor.
Also let's face it, your comment to Gestalt was to
defend the basic level of drawing knowledge and skill you already possess. There's no shame in hitting the books.
Stitch on 7/12/2006 at 17:52
Quote Posted by PigLick
I would say your options are learn to fucking draw architecture already.
Like you've never used a drum machine maestro.
Quote Posted by Vigil
That's why I suggested it would be better to grab a book and work your designs out from your head rather than relying on a 3D editor.
What makes you think I haven't grabbed a book?
Quote Posted by Vigil
Also let's face it, your comment to Gestalt was to
defend the basic level of drawing knowledge and skill you already possess. There's no shame in hitting the books.
Jesus Christ, I've got a shelf full of various drawing books (most geared towards anatomy, but that's another story entirely). My point was not to
defend my basic level of drawing as much as
establish it. Yeah, I worked it in as a joke but I think you've been around these parts long enough to see how I roll.
Anyway, I find the sudden CONTROVERSY in this thread kind of baffling. In any creative project, there are possibly going to be certain areas where one's skill and talent aren't quite good enough to meet the level of quality necessary. There are numerous ways of trying to bridge that gap, and this thread is an attempt to gain information regarding one possible avenue.
Rug Burn Junky on 7/12/2006 at 18:47
OK, Stitch, if you're going to be so stubborn and not listen to such good advice, I'm going to have to break it down for you:
[INDENT]Write these words down on an index card, exactly. (Seriously, with your level of expertise, this section right here is your only hope.)
"I need to learn to draw buildings. Can you find me the pieces to accomplish this."
Now, take this index card to an Art Supply store. When the man asks "Can I help you?" hand him the index card.
DON'T SAY A WORD!!!
If he asks any more questions, just shrug your shoulders. Now, maybe you'll get lucky and they'll have a single program that will do the job, I wouldn't count on it. What he hands you will probably consist of a couple of books, pencils and notebooks. Pay for them, don't worry, it will be under $20, maybe even less. At this point, hand him an index card with the following question:
"Can you show me how to use these?"
Stand there with a clueless look on your face. Maybe he'll relent out of pity, or confusion. He'll likely take the pencils out of their packaging, and show you a sharpener. Then he'll open the notebooks, and show you how to make marks on the paper.
When you get home, find a desk or flat surface area.
Got it? good. It likely has a chair in front of it. Sit in this. Take the pencils and notebooks, and open them up exactly the way the guy in the store showed you. Open the books, and do what it says with the notebooks and papers.
Voila, you are now ready to draw buildings.[/INDENT]
