The_Raven on 11/9/2007 at 16:39

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Don't double post like that, it's frowned upon in the community. If you want to add something else, add it to the bottom of your previous post. Yeah, my previous wasn't really the best structured of rebuttals, but your emo shit is just sad and pathetic. I'm actually on anti-depressants, thank you very much, and stuff like this doesn't bother me one bit. Now if I had been actually there, that might have been a different story...but I wasn't. Actually, my main way of dealing with depression is my cynicism and misanthropy, which would actually be worse if I liked in New York.


Obviously where his sense of reality is.

Foubister on 11/9/2007 at 16:44

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I don't see where I double posted.

You say that if you had been there it might have been a different story. Isn't that what I said as well?

Dia on 11/9/2007 at 16:50

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I agree. I thought I was saturated with all the 9/11 films and documentaries, but last night there was a special on that involved interviews with some of the actual survivors of that fateful catastrophe. Though I am thoroughly sick and tired of seeing the planes crash and the towers fall, and just as bone weary of the godawful media circus that tragedy has been turned into, I felt it was only right that the survivors' stories be heard. I'm not sorry I watched, either.

One glaring fact brought to light of which I was unaware before watching that special was the total lack of communication/cooperation between the police and the fire departments. Nothing 'conspiracy theory' about it; as one city official said, both the police and firefighters had pretty much not interacted during emergencies (sharing information, etc.) with the other on and previously to 9/11. I would like to think that has changed since then, considering that hundreds of lives may have been saved if the lines of communication would have been open between the two departments that day. That same official seemed concerned that now the public wouldn't listen to either the police or fire departments (or any other officials for that matter) in the event of another catastrophic emergency, since on that dreadful day hundreds of people were told to go back up to their offices and stay there until further notice. I know, I know, just more 'if onlys'.

So yeah, as sick as I am of all the media hype regarding 9/11, I still feel that there are stories to be told and that all those people who lost their lives that day should be remembered. For some odd reason though, 'Patriot Day' just grates against my nerves. There were a lot of people who died in that terrible tragedy who weren't US citizens, so I think that the official day of remembrance was inaptly named. And 'America Remembers' seems to imply that the rest of the world doesn't, regardless of the fact that it happened on US soil. I think that the group of guys who just think things up for stuff like that were definitely not at their best when coming up with a name for a day of remembrance of that terrible tragedy. Just mho.

And yeah; my husband & I knew two people who were involved in the 9/11 tragedy. Our friend Brent, who was in the South Tower that day on business (he made it out okay), and his wife Liz, who was an EMT and one of the first to arrive on the scene. Though Liz was buried under a bit of rubble while throwing her body over a severely burned victim when the South Tower collapsed, both were rescued and are now doing fine (especially the burn victim). However, Brent & Liz go camping (as far north as they can, in their words) for a week every Sept. 9th and don't return until the 14th. Liz said having lived through it, it's not something she wants to dwell on. Can't say as I blame them.

Foubister on 11/9/2007 at 17:06

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I suppose it could have been read either way.



If you're talking about seperate posts for each quote, I apologise. I haven't quite figured out how to quote multiple posters in one post. I'll try here and see if it works.



I guess we're all different then. I'd prefer to do the former, but I know myself too well. I think that, eventually, it would have gotten to be too much for me to bear. I could be wrong.

Damn, what did I do wrong with that quote?

Stitch on 11/9/2007 at 17:24

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Well said all around.

Edit:
Also re: Foubister. My last "save the receipt" comment was a little harsh. I basically applaud your empathy while questioning your perspective and disliking your tone.