The_Raven on 11/9/2007 at 14:29
Count me in the "I don't get it" crowd. I was at school at the time it happened and remember it fairly well. I was a little surprised, but not shocked or terrified as other people were. I watched a little bit of the news, we didn't end up doing much in classes for the rest of the day, but even after a 1/2 hours of watching the news, I got tired of it. You can only watch so many replays, shots of people jumping out of the windows, and just seeing it become the latest propaganda piece before you get sick of it. Even here in Atlantic Canada, it was all you could watch on the local channels for several days. Life goes on, school certainly wasn't cancelled, it shouldn't have been, and terrorist acts aren't anything new. Things like that were happening on a daily basis for years prior, years really is too small a quantifier for it. Considering the amount of this shit that happens every day all over the world, the numbers might not be on the same level, I don't find this shit that shocking. Really reminds me of a conversation I had with a close friend back when we were in the 5th or 6th grade, around the mid-90's, about how he was doing a speach on school shootings for social studies or somthing. We ended up making a small laugh about it and concluded that it happens a hell of a lot more than people would LIKE to think. Personally, I'd like to think that we were relatively mature for that age. The relevance to the topic is that we said the exact same thing when we were informed of the attacks at school, grade 11.
OrbWeaver on 11/9/2007 at 14:38
Quote Posted by BR796164
Are the intelligence services and the military of allegedly the most technologically advanced country in the world really so powerless in catching one person on this planet? 6 years after the attacks? It's hard to believe it.
You may have noticed that the planet is actually quite a big place, much of it (such as Afghan mountain ranges) inhospitable and difficult to traverse, and rather sparsely populated with the ATMs, CCTV cameras and other technological conveniences that Western intelligence forces rely upon to catch their targets.
Quote:
1) US intelligence services and military are not so great as they claim to be
Bingo.
Rogue Keeper on 11/9/2007 at 14:53
Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Then Mr. President would do beter if he spared everyone of his sentimental and unreastically confident speeches saying "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." 9/13/01
first, then
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." 3/13/02
and
"I am truly not that concerned about him." The New American, 4/8/02
not even a year after the incident.
Most likely his capture will be precisely timed to boost public opinion when it will be necessary. The location is known, they're tracking him, there are several plans on how to capture him, but the missing thing is the go fetch order.
fett on 11/9/2007 at 14:53
Quote Posted by Stitch
America needs to honor 9/11 for what it is--a tragic day in our history when a terrorist attack killed 2,993 people--but we also need to put it in perspective and, well,
get over it.
I know she broke our heart, guys, but it's time to start dating someone new.
Thread over.
Stitch on 11/9/2007 at 14:55
"Most likely his capture will be precisely timed to boost public opinion when it will be necessary. The location is known, they're tracking him, there are several plans on how to capture him, but the missing thing is the go fetch order."
--BRnumbers
Rogue Keeper on 11/9/2007 at 15:07
Right. :thumb:
Gingerbread Man on 11/9/2007 at 15:14
Quote Posted by Foubister
You were probably fast asleep when 9/11 happened and therefore have no idea about what that day meant. Those of us who watched it live as it happened remember the absolute terror of that day.
Far as I'm aware, there was only one person around here who actually saw it live as it happened. Or at least, only one who's ever said so. And I don't recall it being you.
The_Raven on 11/9/2007 at 15:23
Wow, just finished reading the
whole thread. Foubister, you've got to be kidding, you were further away from the whole thing than we were**. You may live in the capital, but the little acknowledged martimes provinces are one hell of a target: New Brunswick as the harbor, the oil refinery, and the nuclear power plant in the same friggin' area; Nova Scotia has the major Halifax port; and PEI has...potatoes and cows. I don't count Newfoundland as being part of the other maritime provinces. :p
Quote Posted by Foubister
In that sense, we still maintained a kind of innocence. A distance from the terror one experiences when witnessing such acts first hand. That innocence was brutally stripped from our collective conscience on that day. Our souls were raped and left for dead...This being the capital of Canada we were already on edge wondering if we were next. We were afraid, even if only for a moment, like a rape victim when a man gets too close to her even months later.
It's the shit like this that I have an issue with. You're comparing watching something on TV in another f*ckin' country as being the the same as a deeply personal and psychological attack. If you're naive enough to watch the news for years, and movies about terriorists blowing up major landmarks, and not realize that this shit actually
does happen; then that's your problem, not ours.
EDIT: I saw the second tower go down live, GBM. On TV, that is.
**I just checked my map, turns out Ontario IS closer to New York...My bad.
SD on 11/9/2007 at 15:33
Quote Posted by Stitch
I'll never forget that day. And yet I largely agree with BEAR, albeit with more tact.
I agree with BEAR, but with much less tact. Thank goodness he saw this thread before I did!
heretic on 11/9/2007 at 15:39
I saw it live too and it rocked my world. Now, aside from all of the horrible shit that spewed from 9/11 one thing stands out in my mind...how it brought people together. I saw a huge change in the community, a lot more warmth and a lot more chivalry, both local and abroad.
That all died about the same time as the flag every where I look anomaly. It's pretty much over now..for better and for worse.
