[30 Nov 2023] The Black Parade -- RELEASE THREAD

DirkBogan on 11/12/2023 at 06:39

I'm currently working on a spider free patch for a tester, but we've discussed making one public and that would take a bit more time to be up to standard.

Bear in mind that it's not actually possible to thematically remove all spiders from the entire campaign. One particular part can have the AI removed but not the decoration without serious revision.

Haulau on 11/12/2023 at 06:57

Thanks for the fast response! Everything I've seen of this FM pack looks really fantastic, so if a day comes where there's a public patch or workaround then I'll definitely jump back into it myself-- thankfully for now I can enjoy it through one of the many playthroughs out there, but skipping over the parts where they appear :')

(From playing through missions completely spiderless over the years, I've found I don't actually mind rummaging around the webs and caves without them, it's just the models and noises themselves that spook me! So that patch sounds exactly like what I'd be looking for haha)

Ramirez on 11/12/2023 at 17:40

Only just finished mission 1, amazing stuff so far.
Couple of questions - fog is enabled but I can't see it anywhere. Is it on later missions, or is there anything I need to do in terms of config settings?
The mission seemed to be very high contrast. The light sources are very bright and shadows very dark. It's causing me some eye strain, something I've never experienced before (well except maybe some FMs by skacky). Is there anything I can adjust to get a more even balance? My monitor contrast is 50% and gamma is pretty low too, and brightness is 59%.

Azaran on 11/12/2023 at 19:10

Quote Posted by Bucky Seifert

Am I correct in assuming the name Keeper Mercedes is a reference to Calendra's Cistern/Legacy? ;)

Pretty certain. There's strong Calendra (as well as Rocksbourg) influence.

I think I remember a readable referencing the Darkwatch sanctuary from Calendra's Legacy too

MeisterdiebderEchte on 11/12/2023 at 22:21

Hi everyone and a huge thank you and congratulations to the team of TBP. I've been waiting for this for years, still remember the first announcement in 2016 like it was yesterday, at the same time it feels ages away. Couldn't believe this finally got released, and was more than happy to start playing this evening, after some troublesome weeks with not much time. However, I'm not far into the first mission and already encountering some graphic problems that I've had before, unresolved. It happens in the corner of Smokestack Street when I face Cattermole Manor and the abandoned factory and it happens during movement. From one moment to the other, the screen turns almost white, I mean the textures mostly do. When I move forward or backwards a bit, I'm back to the normal graphics. I've had this issue before in the mission "Whispers Below the Cobblestone" and couldn't solve or fix it some odd 1 1/2 or 2 years back, which led to not playing Thief since then and giving up on that mission, although I know it's a really good one as well. Now was hoping that it had something to do with that mission only, but since I'm seeing this same problem now only 15 minutes into TBP, I'm afraid it might turn up more frequently sooner or later, as it did in Whispers. I have TFix Version 1.27 and have not had any of those issues with missions before Whispers, so don't really know what to do now. I don't want to continue TBP, as I'm afraid the experience will get spoiled if those graphic bugs reoccur more frequently. My system is from 2019 and should be more than good to handle Thief Gold. Don't have any mods or enhancement packs installed. I really hope someone can help ... btw: just a few minutes into the first mission, brilliant atmosphere already. Captures the sinister and eery original Thief feeling really well, fantastic.

MeisterdiebderEchte on 11/12/2023 at 23:16

Quote Posted by MeisterdiebderEchte

in addition to my post, I have now witnessed some ongoing error messages in my thief.log-file that most likely correspond with the graphic issues. Don't want to paste the whole thing here since it's very long, but here is an excerpt:

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: DDProvider: Enumerating modes
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1366 x 768 x 32
: 1440 x 1080 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: DDProvider: Enumeration done
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: DDProviderFixed StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 0 2D)
: Loaded script module "convict.osm" [FileModDate=2018-Aug-25]
: Loaded script module "gen.osm" [FileModDate=1999-Sep-28]
: Loaded script module "squirrel.osm" [FileVer=1.0.2.0 ; ProductVer=1.0.2.0 ; FileModDate=2018-Oct-30]
: DDProvider: Enumerating modes
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1366 x 768 x 32
: 1440 x 1080 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: DDProvider: Enumeration done
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: DDProviderFixed StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 0 3D)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: DDProvider: Enumerating modes
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1366 x 768 x 32
: 1440 x 1080 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: DDProvider: Enumeration done
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: DDProviderFixed StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 0 2D)
: DDProvider: Enumerating modes
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1366 x 768 x 32
: 1440 x 1080 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: DDProvider: Enumeration done
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: DDProviderFixed StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 0 3D)
: FATAL: trying to set non-power-of-two sized texture in lgd3d (512x352)
: DDProvider: Enumerating modes
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1366 x 768 x 32
: 1440 x 1080 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32

Twist on 11/12/2023 at 23:51

I know you said you don't have any mods or enhancement packs installed, but you also said you used to TFix. Many people don't realize it, but by default TFix will install some mods. So try what DirkBogan and skacky have been recommending:

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Go to the cam_mod.ini file in your Thief 1 install folder and add a semicolon ( ; ) in front of any lines under the "Mod paths" heading. These are likely to include uber_mod_path and mod_path lines. Alternately, find the MODS folder in your Thief 1 install and rename it.

After you've made these changes, just to be sure, start a brand new game. Don't test with a load, even if it's just a quicksave at the very beginning.

Try that and let us know if things are better.

SuaveSteve on 12/12/2023 at 01:35

Inline Image:

https://i.imgur.com/QnyDVKu.jpeg

Surely the high resolution of the signboards clashes with the art?

Random_Taffer on 12/12/2023 at 02:16

Very suave, Steve.

Komag on 12/12/2023 at 04:03

While I've loved the first two missions so far, the ultra high res signs like that do feel out of place. Mostly the custom stuff fits in well, but another example I'm not fond of is the very rounded open top grain sack I've see a couple times. Stuff like that is very minor to me though, doesn't lessen the overall thrill of this experience thus far!