PigLick on 6/1/2009 at 14:48
I think he was referring to Scots mentioning of coke, but yeh I agree in a more general sense.
Stitch on 6/1/2009 at 15:33
Upon review perhaps the verb "shoehorning" was inappropriate (hadn't had the first of my daily doses of caffeine yet lol)
sp4f on 6/1/2009 at 16:46
Quote Posted by crunchy
Make it to 2010.
This. Oh and try to get a job again, 2008 was a bit fun.
Jan on 6/1/2009 at 16:52
Quote:
Why writing should be fun, not?
I don't think you're right on this one. Writing is
work. You have to sit down and yes, sometimes force yourself to write. Regularity helps. Sounds boring? Hahaha, only because you never really tried to live it. Same for most art, you go through phases, sometimes create a lot, sometimes procrastinate and procrastinate and that's where the regularity helps. You force yourself to do it, to stay in the habit of it. Produce something, look at it, call it complete crap and bury it deep in a drawer. Then you dig it back out later to see if you can't rework it to something good... Anyways. Good luck with the writing Scots :)
Turtle on 6/1/2009 at 17:03
I will do that one thing.
The one I didn't get done last year.
Stitch on 6/1/2009 at 17:15
Quote Posted by Jan
I don't think you're right on this one. Writing is
work. Dorothy Parker reportedly said, "I hate writing, but I love having written."
Kolya on 6/1/2009 at 17:20
Quote Posted by Stitch
Dude, what the fuck. Did you just lose thirty pounds and get drunk for the first time?
Yeah, drugs can be fun, but shoehorning them into every topic of conversation is strictly amateur hour.
Haha, agreed. But as PigLick noted, I was referring to what Scots Taffer had said, and moreover it was about whether you discipline yourself with penalties or rewards.
I never lose or gain weight.
Quote Posted by Jan
Writing is
work. You have to sit down and yes, sometimes force yourself to write.
To be honest, I don't want to read your writings then. Either you have something to say, an urge to express whatever keeps your mind busy, and then it will be fun or cathartic at least, or you shouldn't write at all, but do something else instead.
Admittedly that's a matter of taste or opinion. There are famous authors on both sides of this spectrum.
Nameless Voice on 6/1/2009 at 17:42
Quote Posted by Kolya
Why writing should be fun, not?
This is a bit like trying to convince Thief FM authors that DromEd is fun.
Sure, parts of it are fun, but there's also a lot of work between the fun bits.
It's the same for writing, and probably for most other art.
Fun bits alone don't make a story; you need to put in the work to connect the fun bits into a whole product.
rachel on 6/1/2009 at 17:51
Writing is hard. The world is filled with good ideas, there's nothing easier to have. But crafting a good story out of them can be a pain. You may have "cathartic bursts" now and then but a good writing routine is the best way to get something done.
In my experience however it's true that you shouldn't go back and rework anything until you've finished a first draft of the whole thing.
ymmv
Kolya on 6/1/2009 at 18:00
Making a Thief FM is filled with technicalities. When you write you create matter out of thin air and shape it like a god into whatever your mind can conceive of. And that's the only limit. Not maximum onscreen objects.
This also depends on what writings we talk about here, I like short stories, poetry, things that work as a rush. I never read crime stories and have absolutely no fun when I try.