howie on 2/11/2008 at 18:12

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According to the Mayan Calender the world will end in the year 2012. My brother seems to think that Obama is the Anti-christ reading all that extreme right wing crap - illuminati, new world order, world being decieved by anti-christ, and Obama turning the white house into a pyramid with the all seeing eye at the top. I'm voting for Obama so I told him to do the same to get Jesus to return. Not really sure if God will forgive me for voting for the Anti-christ or not. :ebil:

demagogue on 2/11/2008 at 18:52

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You don't call yourself Fringe for nothing. :D

Ghostly Apparition on 2/11/2008 at 21:11

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Quoted from the NY times article, Greenspans own words.

WASHINGTON — For years, a Congressional hearing with Alan Greenspan was a marquee event. Lawmakers doted on him as an economic sage. Markets jumped up or down depending on what he said. Politicians in both parties wanted the maestro on their side.

But on Thursday, almost three years after stepping down as chairman of the Federal Reserve, a humbled Mr. Greenspan admitted that he had put too much faith in the self-correcting power of free markets and had failed to anticipate the self-destructive power of wanton mortgage lending.

“Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity, myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief,” he told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
end nytimes quote... Dated Oct 23 2008.

Your links are from 2005. Maybe you need to readjust your thinking based on current economic events.

Oh Please indeed.

metal dawn on 2/11/2008 at 22:45

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The "reptoids" (as you call them) are quite real.

For your information, several Draconians (your reptoids/lizardmen) are good friends of mine. They are a peaceful people with a rich and vibrant culture.

Their families were forced to flee to escape the hyper-universal tyranny of the Horlocks, a race of holocidal megalomaniacs (called MIBs by laymen).

This lizardman domination conspiracy is nothing but a smokescreen concocted by the Horlocks and their allies, the dastardly Zeta Reticulans, to ensure further deprivation unto the lives of the Draconians.

Don't think any of this claim to non-violence is worth shit? I'll have you know that our poikilothermic friends have attempted to bestow gifts on us many times; in example, they have tried to give us the secrets to free energy, freedom from all disease, and obtaining a perfect utopia.

Their efforts have all been for naught as the Horlocks and Zeta Reticulans discover and crush these efforts.

As a sidenote, you know the HIV/AIDS thing you always hear about?
Merely a creature of the puppet governents to further their genocide against the Draconians.

Global warming/climate change? Another smokescreen to distract you from the plight of the Dracs.

The 2004 tsunami? The US Civil War? The American Revolution? World War I and II? Never happened.
Merely pretexts and brainwash you to subjegate you into a state of confusion and pliancy. FYI the JEWS did do 911. The Jovian Exploratory Worldwide Syndicate (a shadowy governing body led by the Horlocks) that is. Oh, and the towers were never destroyed; you've just been mentally manipulated so you can't sense them.

The meteorites/asteroids that caused countless extinctions?
Terrible, awful lie. As a matter of most factual fact, there are NO SUCH THINGS AS METEORITES/ASTEROIDS. The very idea of rocks drifting through space or even being in space is a crock of shit. All of these meteorites/asteroids in question are nothing less than swarms of cleverly disguised Zeta Reticulan and Horlock worldships.

Ever wonder why Pluto is no longer a planet?
Because it's a refugee colony for the Draconians. They have been trying to raise communications with us since the dawn of civilation to explain everything. In yet another move to divert your attention, Pluto's reputation was smeared. What Draconians' transmissions manifest as may seem odd, but believe you me, this is the very essence of veracity. Know what the signals are? Headaches. That's right, you bastards. In you ignorance, you fail to acknowledge the horrible truth that the Draconians have been trying to tell you. Think carefully before you grab the Excedrin.

In summation, don't make base assumptions when you have no clue of what's really been happening.

Stereoprismatic on 2/11/2008 at 22:52

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No one seems to be addressing the Community Reinvestment Act. Again, government caused the lending to go out of control. Do some research instead of just reading one lousy MSM article. Greenspan is just trying to whitewash his reputation and blame it on the free market, when government caused it. The man is a state shill in every way. He did absolutely nothing to stop this crisis.

Again, the Federal Reserve is about as federal as federal express. Wake up to the destruction the banksters are causing. This is a problem from the very top. Yes, the mortgage lenders participated in this corrupt system, and there is definitely blame to be laid there. But the Fed is absolutely the main problem. And just because things are as they are doesn't mean they couldn't be better.

The articles I linked to from 2005 were written by people who have predicted this crisis for years, some of them for decades. The Austrian Economists have been right every time and the Keynesians have been wrong. I don't think things have changed drastically within a few years. I think people are just waking up to the fact that our banking system is completely insolvent.

A useful tool for understanding this crisis is Mises.org 's "Bailout Reader":

(http://mises.org/story/3128)

Literally dozens of articles showing the people who predicted this mess and what they suggest to solve it. Plus, near the bottom are links to a lot of .pdf files of full books written by Mises, Rothbard, Hayek, and others. Like I said before, Ludwig Von Mises predicted the great depression, not out of some crystal ball, but out of a sound, reasoned understanding of economics. Keynesians think the bubble blowing can just go on forever, but we've seen with the crash of 29, the fall of bretton woods, the dot com crash, the housing market bubble, and now the credit bubble that artificial wealth does not last forever, and must eventually be corrected.

Check out this neat video on the crash of 29. Regardless of your economic stance, it's a very interesting watch:

(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7233622324068640582&hl=en)