2008 TTLG Mock presidential election. Poll included - by io organic industrialism
Scots Taffer on 16/10/2008 at 04:49
The greatest sadness in it all that I tend to find is that those seemingly reasonable and intelligent people are usually racist as a result of deliberate or ignorant misinformation or ingrained, inherited prejudice and not necessarily a result of their own thinking.
BEAR on 16/10/2008 at 15:31
Its worse for me because they are kind of my people. And for the most part they are good people, they just need to get over that shit. And its due to isolation as much as anything. Its the same basically with any group of people, its easy to just blame the current generation for being the way they are, but its really a culmination of their history and culture that affects them the most.
But it is changing. Dangerous racism has turned into racism that basically amounts to good old boys making snide comments about blacks to eachother, which is not as bad as it could be. The funny thing for me is I forget that there are as many racists as there are, because I'm usually not around them when they talk about that. I think they tend to get the feeling that even if I'm local, I'm not quite one of them, but it still occasionally comes out and takes me by surprise.
Thats why that "rednecks for Obama" picture touched me more than it probably should have. I'm going to feel so much better if Obama can carry North Carolina this time around.
fett on 16/10/2008 at 17:08
Quote Posted by BEAR
Its worse for me because they are kind of my people. And for the most part they are
good people, they just need to get over that shit. And its due to isolation as much as anything. Its the same basically with any group of people, its easy to just blame the current generation for being the way they are, but its really a culmination of their history and culture that affects them the most.
But it is changing. Dangerous racism has turned into racism that basically amounts to good old boys making snide comments about blacks to eachother, which is not as bad as it could be. The funny thing for me is I forget that there are as many racists as there are, because I'm usually not around them when they talk about that. I think they tend to get the feeling that even if I'm local, I'm not
quite one of them, but it still occasionally comes out and takes me by surprise.
Thats why that "rednecks for Obama" picture touched me more than it probably should have. I'm going to feel so much better if Obama can carry North Carolina this time around.
Quoted for truth.
My father-in-law is the perfect example of this. You couldn't ask for a more compassionate, generous guy, but he's a southerner. He's actually made comments to me before about how the Emancipation of the slaves was a big mistake. :confused: :eek:
I didn't mean for my earlier post to imply that the racism originated with the Right, just that they're not above manipulating it to win.
TafferLing on 16/10/2008 at 17:49
How does the real time vote projection work?
Do they give a yes\no button to every person used to calculate the share?
heretic on 16/10/2008 at 19:46
Quote Posted by fett
I didn't mean for my earlier post to imply that the racism originated with the Right, just that they're not above manipulating it to win.
No disagreement there. I doubt there is an issue politicians of any stripe
wouldn't manipulate in order to secure a win.
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http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/dgn75/shitter.jpgdemagogue on 16/10/2008 at 21:13
Quote Posted by TafferLing
How does the real time vote projection work?
Do they give a yes\no button to every person used to calculate the share?
There was a studio audience at CNN of about 30 people (?), split beteween D's, R's and I's, each with a handheld dial from 0-100 they'd turn after every comment with 50=exactly neutral.
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The dumbest moment IMO was really that "zero" moment, because Obama perfectly calls McCains' bluff: Joe's company won't pay for employees it leaves without insurance if it's a small company, and McCain had to come back "Well, this is Joe's lucky day, actually now he's very wealthy and starts a large business that's too cheap to provide employee insurance" ... ffs, stop calling him Joe the Plumber as if he's minimum wage then! And nobody's going to sympathize when a company like Microsoft won't pay for employee insurance.
Whatever, McCain was grasping at straws through the whole thing; I can't recall any attack that was very convincing, and such a dumb debate tactic to keep handing your opponent the initiative to explain himself on
every question.
Scots Taffer on 17/10/2008 at 00:12
ZERO?!?!
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metal dawn on 17/10/2008 at 01:38
MOARLIEK JOE THE ASSPLUMBER AMIRITE??
