2008 TTLG Mock presidential election. Poll included - by io organic industrialism
SD on 15/10/2008 at 17:58
Quote Posted by CaptSyn
I don't know what other "dudes" you are referring to, but I am consistent.
Well, you're certainly consistent in ignoring the fact that McCain was born outside the United States, I'll give you that much.
Indeed, I wonder why McCain being born in Panama doesn't bother you, yet barely credulous rumours about Obama are of earth-shattering import. Could you perhaps shed some light on this peculiarity?
Turtle on 15/10/2008 at 17:59
Quote Posted by CaptSyn
All he has to do is produce a birth certificate that can be backed up by a hospital's records and that would stop the issue for good. He has refused to do this.
Obama is not so busy that he can't have his wife dig it out of their records and send a copy to him via email, or send a hardcopy to the judge presiding over the lawsuit.
If the internet is so taken by this issue, they can call the county clerk of the place Obama was born , pony up the 20 bucks and get their own copy of his birth record.
jay pettitt on 15/10/2008 at 18:42
Oh you really don't know how far the rabbit hole goes. The county clerk and the DNC are in league.
metal dawn on 15/10/2008 at 18:56
Quote Posted by SD
Indeed, I wonder why McCain being born in Panama doesn't bother you, yet barely credulous rumours about Obama are of earth-shattering import. Could you perhaps shed some light on this peculiarity?
Why, because Johnnie M. is and always has been a "maverick" in all aspects of his life!!!
heretic on 15/10/2008 at 19:17
Quote Posted by metal dawn
Why, because Johnnie M. is and always has been a "maverick" in all aspects of his life!!!
Or maybe because instead of ignoring the buzz and refusing to address the concern he (Mccain) immediately challenged the issue and was eventually declared a natural-born citizen by the (
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/04/11/clinton-obama-agree-mccains-a-natural-born-citizen/) senate.
Hawaii does not release birth records to non-family and the Obama camp did not provide one, that is probably where the hubbub of this issue lies. If Obama had released the damned certificate when all of this had started it would probably be less of an issue, not that it is much of one now as things stand.
CaptSyn on 15/10/2008 at 20:06
Quote Posted by SD
Well, you're certainly consistent in ignoring the fact that McCain was born outside the United States, I'll give you that much.
Indeed, I wonder why McCain being born in Panama doesn't bother you, yet barely credulous rumours about Obama are of earth-shattering import. Could you perhaps shed some light on this peculiarity?
Because McCain was born in a US Navy Hospital, which is sovereign American territory.
(
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html)
Even though McCain has also refused to produce his birth certificate, other public records have exonerated him.
Too bad the same can't be said or proven for Obama.
It seems many people around here are simply too blinded or too ignorant to see this.
jay pettitt on 15/10/2008 at 21:20
So what about that wager...?
fett on 15/10/2008 at 22:16
Quote Posted by CaptSyn
It seems many people around here are simply too blinded or too ignorant to see this.
You guys are all gonna see the truth when you're praying toward Mecca three times a day and forced to marry 20 wives! THEN YOU'LL SEE! BUT IT WILL BE TOOOOO LAAAATTEEEEE!!!!!
Seriously.
I visited my family (both sides) in Little Rock Arkansas this weekend and it's amazing how many people around there really really really believe he's a Muslim plant that's going to let the Negros take over the country. They were not amused when I pointed out repeatedly that this would be a good thing because white people music sucks the big one.
I'm going to go with my gut here and say that that all of these stupid internet rumors and scary stories go back to the simple fact that people are afraid of a black man running the country. Because I've yet to see a single one of them verified. Even the connection to Bill Ayers (sp?) is tenuous at best, but my own family is going to ride it like a rodeo bull all the way to Nov. 4th.
It's fucking racism.
D'Juhn Keep on 15/10/2008 at 22:32
Quote Posted by CaptSyn
Even though McCain has also refused to produce his birth certificate, other public records have exonerated him.
Too bad the same can't be said or proven for Obama.
It seems many people around here are simply too blinded or too ignorant to see this.
Quote Posted by CaptSyn
Obama's citizenship isn't the issue, despite what some people seem to think. Whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen is the issue.
You can't be President if you weren't born on sovereign American soil, which includes American military installations and possibly certain occupied zones, though I'm sure there are some exceptions.
If Obama is indeed a natural born US citizen, then there's no reason to stall the issue. All he has to do is produce a birth certificate that can be backed up by a hospital's records and that would stop the issue for good. He has refused to do this.
Obama is not so busy that he can't have his wife dig it out of their records and send a copy to him via email, or send a hardcopy to the judge presiding over the lawsuit.
Quote Posted by CaptSyn
If you're so damned smart, then you tell me what Obama is hiding and why he is stalling.
Quote Posted by CaptSyn
It's still not even known for sure if Obama is a natural born American citizen, and if he isn't, then he can't be President.
Wait so you're saying if you saw a birth certificate then it'd be fine and you'd have no more arguments against him being an natural born citizen?
Something like (
http://www.backdrifts.co.uk/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg) this then?
Edit: please prove me wrong when I think that "facts" and "proof" will mean nothing to you and you'll carry on grasping at any straws in an effort to carry on believing whatever stupid bollocks you want
