thiefessa on 13/4/2013 at 15:42
I realise that... but it helps if they can provide some reasoning to think otherwise. In other words, what possible motive would I have for "pretending" anything?
If we go back to how this conversation started, I was discussing game content and stated that "I genuinely haven't seen anything I don't like yet".
So, for saying that, I get the "you're a mod blah blah" nonsense all over again. This is what is illogical. I have no reason to lie. I just come here and TRY to share my opinions like any other taffer.
Specter on 13/4/2013 at 15:51
Quote Posted by thiefessa
I realise that... but it helps if they can provide some reasoning to think otherwise. In other words, what possible
motive would I have for "pretending" anything?
If we go back to how this conversation started, I was discussing game content and stated that
"I genuinely haven't seen anything I don't like yet".So, for saying that, I get the "you're a mod blah blah" nonsense all over again. This is what is illogical. I have no reason to lie. I just come here and TRY to share my opinions like any other taffer.
I understand that. The guy at the car dealership swears up and down that he has no reason to lie as well. We don't know you personally. It is not enough to simply say "I'm telling the truth, I swear!". It may be unfair, but its the internet. No one will believe anything just because someone says it. You may have no reason to lie, that's true. It could also be true that you wish to seek employment with Eidos, or that they asked you to be a positive voice 'over in that other place', or any number of things. Again, I am not claiming that this is the case. What I am saying is that it is understandable for people to have that doubt, and it has nothing to do with you personally, because none of us know you personally. It is the affiliation with EM that causes them to think otherwise. Anyone with that affiliation would be subject to the same doubt.
thiefessa on 13/4/2013 at 15:59
Yes. One can imagine all sorts of motives. But I honestly don't have any. I'm just a fan of the game. Nothing more and nothing less.
Perhaps discussing this out in the open will help put some minds at ease. Hope so. It would be nice to come here and post freely, as I have done since 2005.
Honestly... I'm only here for the chill. Just wish others would chill too. :cheeky:
Have things to do, but I'll be back later if you want to chat more. :)
Dia on 13/4/2013 at 16:37
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One can imagine all sorts of motives. But I honestly don't have any. I'm just a fan of the game. Nothing more and nothing less. .... Honestly... I'm only here for the chill.
That could be true of some of your posts, but you've taken far too many opportunities to remind us that you are an EM mod and keep reiterating EM's stance that EM won't budge regarding hiring SR back to reprise his role as Garrett and in that light you believe our efforts (i.e. the petition) to be a lesson in futility - why, it's almost as if you're actively trying to discourage us. You've stated the same thing over and over again and and keep parroting EM's statements.
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... it is clear EM did not choose to go with him, otherwise they would have done so right from the early stages. You guys might be able to persuade EM to change their minds about the new actor... but they are happy with their choice.
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... and I'm just a humble mod.
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Is it true I'm "Viktoria"? Yes. But I am not "employed" by EM - I'm just a fan of the game and a volunteer moderator only.
When I am in mod-mode over there, it is to perform mod duties in accordance with the ToU.
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I don't agree that EM MUST have SR as voice actor.
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There are lots of negative posts on the official forum that don't serve EM's interest, to be fair. So long as they stay within the ToU, they remain.
The petition to bring back Mr Russell is not allowed, no. That is because EM have chosen their voice actor.
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As we already know, EM have chosen their voice actor, Romano.
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Eidos kindly ask .....
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This is because EM have made up their mind and no amount of signatures will change it. .... It is better that EM don't give false hope by allowing petition threads to remain.
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I am not saying anything... I am repeating what EM have said.
The post above may very well offer hope; but it contradicts what EM have resolutely told us, no?
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What I have said is that EM are not going to change their mind and use SR. ....EM have given you their upfront, honest answer.
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That doesn't make any sense though... they already told us SR is not Garrett so can't imagine how they could be any more 'bad guy' than that.
So please understand why in the opinions of some here at TTLG the 'objectivity' to which you lay claim is in truth noticeably lacking. You say you're 'just a fan', but still manage to incorporate EM edicts, ToU's, etc., in more than a few of your posts - and that's just in
this thread alone. We all know who and what you are; you really don't need to keep reminding us. We got it the first several times. Stop claiming that you're 'just a fan' with no motives other than being 'only here for the chill'. We know better.
New Horizon on 13/4/2013 at 16:43
Personally thiefessa, I think Eidos are fools NOT to have you on their payroll. With you holding the unpaid position of Moderator, they're getting a lot of bang for zero bucks in terms of the PR work you do. It certainly deserves compensation.
Goldmoon Dawn on 13/4/2013 at 17:57
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I realise that... but it helps if they can provide some reasoning to think otherwise. In other words, what possible
motive would I have for "pretending" anything?
Uh oh, the cracks in the armor are beginning to show.
"The unseen reefs and shallows, that were there from the start".
:ebil:
btw, how is that self-evaluation of your reputation here going? Im just saying, you seem like a nice intelligent lady, and I just think that you could be contributing so much more to TTLG than you are with your current approach to posting here.
thiefessa on 13/4/2013 at 19:19
Dia, you said I wasn't worth responding to in a previous post. If you are going to make such declarations then at least stand by what you say, otherwise I'll have to presume that such statements are just an excuse to be rude and unfriendly.
But seeing as you have responded, I figure you require a response.
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That could be true of some of your posts, but you've taken far too many opportunities to remind us that you are an EM mod and keep reiterating EM's stance that EM won't budge regarding hiring SR back to reprise his role as Garrett and in that light you believe our efforts (i.e. the petition) to be a lesson in futility - why, it's almost as if you're actively trying to discourage us. You've stated the same thing over and over again and and keep parroting EM's statements.
You keep saying the same thing over and over again and keep parroting that I'm an EM mod.
I am just a fan of the game; it isn't a claim, its a fact. I'm here for the games and have been since 2005.
I don't keep reminding people of anything. If you are going to quote me then you ought to quote the entire conversation between myself and other parties, it needs to be read in context with discussion at the time. The EM and ToU references are there because I answered people's specific questions or shared information or facts etc. People can see that is the situation if they read the conversations. I'm sure you did too when you spent hours trawling through my posts. So, yes, I'm responding to posts. Should I be rude and ignore questions asked; or not share information or facts etc? No way. As I've already said, if others don't bring the particular matter of being a mod up in the first place, then there would never be any need for me to respond to it. Seriously, quit the mod references yourselves and you won't ever hear the dreaded word again. It really is absolutely irrelevant to me. I am only a moderator whilst in mod-mode on the official forum. Whilst I am here, I am a regular gal.
My opinions are my own; otherwise I would be a robot. They are positive at the moment, yes, but I honestly don't have any problems with the game so far, from what information has been released. I don't really get your point though because I could copy and paste a load of your negativity about the game and show that your objectivity might be questionable. But that would be pointless because as far as you are concerned they are your honest opinions, right? Its the same for me.
As for the petition. Hello! I am not the only person who doesn't believe that EM will change their mind. That is my opinion. My opinion is not actively trying to discourage you. Why the heck would I want to waste my time doing that? :confused:
PS. Please don't reply with any more of the mod stuff...JUST stuff about the game, then we can enjoy a sensible chat. :thumb:
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... in terms of the PR work you do. It certainly deserves compensation.
What PR work do I do? :confused:
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btw, how is that self-evaluation of your reputation here going? Im just saying, you seem like a nice intelligent lady, and I just think that you could be contributing so much more to TTLG than you are with your current approach to posting here.
Oh, its crazy, to be expected, lol. :joke:
My current approach is my normal approach... I'm friendly, I try to keep to sensible discussion and I respect the rules here. I think really its a case of SOME others here looking to themselves. It isn't my problem to sort out. I know some get frustrated with my so-called postive views (so far), but I'm just being straightforward and honest. Its not a problem if I'm unpopular for my opinion.... I'm not here to score any points or join someone's gang.
I don't want to have to come here and reply to this nonsense, you know. I just want to talk about the GAME, not me.
Admittedly, its only a few people who seem to want to stir discussion away from the game. Not sure what can be done about it other than asking people to chill a bit. :cool:
Briareos H on 13/4/2013 at 20:02
No you don't want to talk about the game. You want to tell everyone how you are fine with every single decision Eidos Montreal have taken. You haven't discussed the actual game in any significant manner since you have been here. It's either one-liners blindly praising or accepting Eidos Montreal without even a single pretense of critical thinking (i.e. you don't even justify EMs choices and counter opponent arguments, you just say things are just "fine" for you); or monologues justifying your status on TTLG or discussing moderation and terms of use on the Eidos Forums. That's it.
I'm fine with you staying here, saying whatever you want to say about EM, but don't pretend you're here to discuss the game.
thiefessa on 13/4/2013 at 20:07
If you actually look through my posts you will see that I do talk about the game in various threads. Admittedly I don't go into a lot of detail or engage in any serious arguments on the forum but that is because I understand other people hold different opinions and tastes, so I see no point in arguing about anything.
I assure you I'm here to discuss the games. Why would I pretend otherwise? :confused:
Goldmoon Dawn on 13/4/2013 at 20:11
I dont know.
Why, are you?
