New Horizon on 3/4/2013 at 14:59
Quote Posted by thiefessa
That's because I personally look for other things that make a good game. Atmosphere, immersion, narrative, exploration etc etc.
I've enjoyed all the fan missions... some were even better than those in the official games.... and none of them were voiced by Russell. I'm glad I never refused to play them because of the voice actors. What would I have missed? :eek:
We all look at those things, but Fan Missions aren't exactly a fair comparison since we as fans simply can't hire Stephen Russell to voice our FM's whenever we need him. Thief 4 is an official Eidos product, so they're held to a higher level
Renault on 3/4/2013 at 15:01
Quote Posted by thiefessa
You guys might be able to persuade EM to change their minds about the new actor... but they are happy with their choice.
Yeah, but we, the fans who will (potentially) pay for the game, are not. Who cares is EM is happy, why does that even matter? Are we supposed to be glad for them?
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Because of this... I've voted "It doesn't matter. "
That's because I personally look for other things that make a good game to me. Atmosphere, immersion, narrative, exploration etc etc.
I've enjoyed all the fan missions... some were even better than those in the official games.... and none of them were voiced by Russell. I'm glad I never refused to play them because of the voice actors. What would I have missed? :eek:
First, the poll says nothing about "refusing to play" the new game. It simply states whether you want SR to play Garrett or not. So you're saying you're really indifferent to that? If it was 100% up to you, you wouldn't choose SR over whoever this new guy is?
Second - FM makers don't have the option of using SR, unless they want to recycle lines from the original games. EM made a conscious decision not to use SR - big difference. I think most FM authors given an actual choice would have gone with SR, dontcha think?
Third - If you're just going to come over here as EM's lapdog and shameless promoter of anything and everything they do, you're going to constantly and continually take a virtual beating, and it's just going to keep getting worse. So why bother? You're transparent as hell, and not fooling anyone.
Nothing against you personally, I'm sure you're a nice person. But no one is going to take anything you say seriously around here.
Hypevosa on 3/4/2013 at 15:02
Quote Posted by thiefessa
EM are releasing more info on the voice actor and the game very soon.
I'm just going to chill out about it now and wait for further news and sound clips.
I'm hesitant about them giving out any info about the man now. He doesn't deserve it, but I have no doubt he will get alot of really nasty mail due to this.
thiefessa on 3/4/2013 at 15:03
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I could never justify sending nasty mail to anyone. People who do this are not someone I would associate with or stand by. EVER.
To all, I'm not trying to compare anything ... I'm saying it like it is, for me. At the end of the day, its the actual GAME that is more important, not the voice.
To have the GAME AND THE VOICE would be utterly fantastic... but if it is only to be the game, then so be it.
LOL... can't keep up with the replies. :ebil:
Umm, who said we have to be happy for EM? Don't know why that was even brought up.
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Third - If you're just going to come over here as EM's lapdog and shameless promoter of anything and everything they do, you're going to constantly and continually take a virtual beating, and it's just going to keep getting worse. So why bother? You're transparent as hell, and not fooling anyone.
Nothing against you personally, I'm sure you're a nice person. But no one is going to take anything you say seriously around here.
I come here as a regular member and have done so since 2005 with no issues, warnings or bans. I am nobody's lapdog; I am my own person. I don't promote anything.
If I am to take a virtual beating... then that is up to whomever wants to beat me. But the reasoning behind it would be immature and unfair.
Yes, I am a nice person.
I don't care if people take me seriously or not. My opinions are as valued or as worthless as yours, his or hers.
Hypevosa on 3/4/2013 at 15:10
Quote Posted by thiefessa
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I could never justify sending nasty mail to anyone. People who do this are not someone I would associate with or stand by. EVER.
Nor would I, it's not his fault, but the internet has thrown people under a bus for far less than that - and thief has some really passionate fan base. If they give out his name or anything that can be used to discern contact info I have 0 doubt in my mind that he will receive all sorts of unfriendly correspondence. I can't help but be concerned when he's probably a voice actor who's just getting off the ground - it would suck to have people kicking you in the teeth so early on just for taking a job.
thiefessa on 3/4/2013 at 15:11
Oh, I definitely get what you mean Hypevosa. I get the occasional nasty PM too... and I'm just a humble mod. There are some psychos out there! :eek:
Dia on 3/4/2013 at 15:12
Quote Posted by Hypevosa
I'm hesitant about them giving out any info about the man now. He doesn't deserve it, but I have no doubt he will get alot of really nasty mail due to this.
I'd never pick on the actor; afterall, he's just doing the job he was hired & paid to do. Regardless of whether or not he did a lousy job of it.
No, I'd save my nasty e-mails for EM. They're the ones mucking things up.
Hypevosa on 3/4/2013 at 15:25
Quote Posted by Dia
I'd never pick on the actor; afterall, he's just doing the job he was hired & paid to do. Regardless of whether or not he did a lousy job of it.
No, I'd save my nasty e-mails for EM. They're the ones mucking things up.
These are essentially my sentiments. I joke about voice acting some day because I have so many voices I employ on a regular basis and I find the idea enjoyable - I'd be honored to take on such an iconic character, but the outburst, insults, and hatemail would certainly not help me.
If I were in this guy's shoes, I'd be talking to the guys on the team about doing something with Russell at least if he would consent - something like me getting voice acting tips and maybe some lessons on Garrett's character and demeanor from him or something - you know, actually show that I'm doing my best and not that I'm just some usurper, and that I care about what I'm doing, not that it's just another paycheck.
Petike the Taffer on 3/4/2013 at 15:37
I've signed it and I've written a very detailed and level-headed accompanying text of why I did so.
For the record :
I'm not annoyed by the new voice actor, because I liked his impression. However, since Russell is still available and EM's excuses are borderline odd and needlessly secretive, I had to voice my opinion. I don't even want them to replace the default voiceover, as long as there will be an alternate version voiced by Russell. It doesn't need to be in-game, even a DLC format will do.
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These are essentially my sentiments.
And mine as well, as I've already mentioned above.
clearing on 3/4/2013 at 15:50
Signed.