demagogue on 9/5/2013 at 19:47

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Since I've been playing some Paradox Games, especially Victoria 2, I've been reading their forums & other forums on alt-history, and they all have this lovely phrase called "Alien Space Bats" (ASB). It means when something happens in history that's fun to think about but has little to no chance in the real world. So we imagine Alien Space Bats came down to earth & engineered it to happen just for the fan service of pleasing us. The more improbable it is, the more Alien Space Bats it takes to do, so things can get an ASB ranking of probability.

Now when people come up with these ideas for Thief4, I sometimes think of how many ASBs have to come down to do it, haha. This idea, and fans hiring Stephen Russel to do some voicing, and a few others are those sorts of ideas. Fun to think about, but we're talking about more than a few ASBs coming down to do it. ;) :laff:

Maybe somebody knows a good spell to call them.

Al_B on 9/5/2013 at 22:01

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Of course there is - it's this one: http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr99/Al_Bro/asb.gif

Dia on 10/5/2013 at 00:22

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Yeah, and LGS only had about 60 employees working on TDP, if I'm not mistaken. Monster is right! Somehow I don't see 300 people, each with their own views and opinions about how T4 should be developed, listening to us. Maybe in the beginning, because from what I've read/seen the original T4 devs were very much in touch with us and with what Thief is all about. But that's where things started falling apart due to 'alleged' disagreements within the T4 team, people leaving (or being fired?), ideas and basic work on the game being rewritten, revised, if not totally thrown in the trash. I wonder if from the beginning, the aim of EM was to create a reboot, a 'modern, updated' version of Thief, or if that decision came later after much of the work from the original T4 devs was trashed or rewritten. If that had been EM's plan all along - to create a reboot - could those initial disagreements perhaps stemmed from EM's decision? I could honestly see that happening.

It bothers me that there are devs on the T4 team who seem to be throwing in this and that because they think it's cool and they think that's what all gamers want nowadays. As I said before, they're not listening to us anymore.

antihero276 on 10/5/2013 at 08:48

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Well, think I'm about done with the official forums by now... but then you all beat me to that a long time ago xD, it's just a repetitive cycle over there full of bleeding heart apologists and mods feeling the need to throw things right back in your face, misconstruing each of my statements. It's not that it took me this long to realize that's all it is, but i'm tired of it at last. "EM has already made it's decision on Stephen Russell (repeated about a hundred thousand times like I don't understand, as if repeating it will make me smile and accept it)... so what point do you even want to make?", about sums up the situation and thoughts there :bored:. Might drop by there now and again to annoy them where possible, bringing up their lack of common sense, but for the most part, I'm gonna be here.

Whatever, things have always been more interesting here anyways :cool:

Myth on 10/5/2013 at 11:12

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The official forums are a craphole. I only get angry when I read them, most of the constructive suggestions or opinoins of people who know the series and love it are buried beneath endless piles of drivel, and threads such as "Ezio vs. Garrett" and Stephen Russell wars.